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So why do we need to discuss further into what tie breakers should be used beyond this point?

Because we have nothing better to do :)
I doubt it matters, but it's just the principle that doesn't make sense, and some people have the OCD-like need for even the smallest things to make sense.

if u think about it, the system makes sense ;) And head to head is biased here, because u don't always play your strongest lineup here - that counts for you and your direct concurence, but often you don't know who ends with the same record then you or the game plan don't allows you to concentrate on that game. not forget about the end game logic

With point differential, those things balance out, over a season. With head to head, i think they will be lot of unlucky comparisions.

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I've already said that I have no problem with point differential! I've said that at least 4 times now! It's the total points that I have problem with.

I'm sorry I did not mean to create such controversy, it is very well just a game.

And I am sad to say my original post was mostly a veiled complaint about points over H2H, and of course it's because it suits me. Not very positive :-/


I can accept the opinions, even if I don't agree with every one, and can certainly handle the rule being the rule whatever it may be. I wish you guys well :-)

Haha, looking at our league, I see that my team has more total points than any other team in our league, so the points rule is to my advantage. I still dont agree with it though.

What's not to agree?

The H2H WILL not work for teams from different conferences.....As Kozlo said it several times. So unless you have 2 inter conference matches you are basically handing the home team in that match a fair bit of advantage. How is that exactly fair? To decide the home team for the championship game on ONE game only in case of a tie.....

Nice logic here....

What's not to agree?
The H2H WILL not work for teams from different conferences.....As Kozlo said it several times. So unless you have 2 inter conference matches you are basically handing the home team in that match a fair bit of advantage. How is that exactly fair? To decide the home team for the championship game on ONE game only in case of a tie.....

1) The OP said "Probably been asked, but are there any tiebreakers at all besides point differential? It'd be nice if H2H would be first, but projected spots don't suggest that :-/" - so the question was about getting into the playoffs, where teams from the same conference compete. But that doesnt make total points any fairer...
2) "Interconference teams" means teams from different conferences, so I think you mean "Intraconference"? If so, in the case of interconference, the tiebreaker would probably be for home court advantage?
So assuming the records and points differential are tied, you have to choose from the lesser of the [several] evils: tiebreaker game, H2H, total points scored, strength of victories, records in the last quarter of the season, alphabetical order, average height, number of vowels in team name, average IQ of team, total surface area of the players' eyes on their pictures, etc.
Now, we can throw out alphabetical order, average height, number of vowels, average IQ, and largeness of eyes, because these prove nothing about the team's ability to win. For the same reason, we should throw out total points scored, because once again, it says nothing about the team's ability to win.
Granted, scoring points helps you win. But being tall helps get rebounds, which also helps win. Having a higher IQ means youre smarter, and might play smarter. Having bigger eyes may increase peripheral vision, helping players make plays better. How about using total rebounds or total assists, or steals, or shooting %, etc....
These are just random tiebreakers that I made up, but they use the same logic as total points - scoring is important. rebounds are important. Shooting efficiency is important. But they each ignore huge aspects of the game of basketball.
What would you say if the tiebreaker was total rebounds? Or any other boxscore stat for that matter?
Next, after cleaning up the illogical tiebreakers, we can eliminate the inconvenient ones. In the case of home court advantage between 2 interconference teams, a one game tiebreaker on a neutral arena would be considered a waste of time and energy, so that is out. H2H is more reasonable, but it is also unfair for interconference teams(but more fair than total rebounds/points/assists/etc). So strength of victory (consider the records of the opponents of the 2 teams during the regular season - basically which conference the team comes from is stronger - if 2 teams have the same record and points differential, the better one is probably from the better conference) could work here. There are several more options... which only makes me wonder, why choose such an illogical tiebreaker like total points scored when there are clearly better options...

Nice logic here....

Thank you :)

why choose such an illogical tiebreaker like total points scored when there are clearly better options...

Because for something that will be used one time every million league and is a non-issue, you go for the easy and practical solution.

why choose such an illogical tiebreaker like total points scored when there are clearly better options...

Because for something that will be used one time every million league and is a non-issue, you go for the easy and practical solution.

and in this case even realistic solution, because it is a used concept.

The roots from it, aren't really in the athletik department, but most times it is used to make a offensiv minded attractive game style more attractiv to the clubs and make the league more intresting.

and to add to that, even the most popular of sports around the world, if 2 teams finish with everything exactly the same, the tiebreaker comes down to an eventual coin toss....

Its not likely to happen but still, there are more absurd tie breakers in the real world.

Just because people use it, doesnt mean its practical or logical. And all it takes are a few lines of code to implement a better rule.
A coin toss is used when no more fair rules can be called upon. In this case, there are plenty of more fair rules...
I think the only reason they said total points scored was because someone said "wait, what if the two teams have the same record and the same points differential?" and they took a split second to think and just implemented the rule for total points.
Anyways, the chance of this situation is really small. But the amount of work to make it more fair is also really small...

At the end of the day H2H being "more fair" is only a matter of opinion. There are equally more arguments on why H2H should not be used and is just as "not fair".

The rules are set. Stick with it and this is a highly unlikely scenario in any case.