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182720.37 in reply to 182720.36
Date: 4/28/2011 2:07:34 AM
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there was a fantastic bidwar, both managers having 7th level coach..

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182720.38 in reply to 182720.35
Date: 4/28/2011 12:59:26 PM
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6.05 mil for this kid in our league (19739376)

This is clearly a situation where TPA should be applied

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182720.39 in reply to 182720.1
Date: 4/28/2011 1:18:41 PM
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I don't see any solution for this...

Some seasons ago i wanted a really good rookie, his value more or less was about 2M-2,5M(it was high but...). Started a bid war with 1 spanish div1 team and at the end i bought it for 4,5M(also because i liked the name of the rookie).

Its just offer&demand and i don't think BB's or GM's should start changing the market.

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182720.40 in reply to 182720.39
Date: 4/28/2011 1:29:03 PM
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I don't care about how much do you want to offer for a player in a bid war,I care about the money that the sellers receive.
You can decide to pay a young rookie 6M,but the seller should not receive all that money(at least,with the actual market situation)

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182720.41 in reply to 182720.40
Date: 4/28/2011 2:03:49 PM
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A possible solution would be to take the above and beyond extra money(say it's 2 million or so). Give the market price money to the buyers, and add in the money into that league's TV contract. All teams in the league would then get a little over 125000 extra dollars spread out over the length of the season. But it would only work for extreme cases, like in the event that players are sold over 175% their market value or something. Consider it prestige for having such a talented 18 year old come out of your league or something.

It would be fairly easy to manipulate this one rule to give a club money though, I guess. It would have to be coded very carefully to make sure that too extreme a value just gets cut off like it should.

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182720.42 in reply to 182720.41
Date: 4/28/2011 2:07:38 PM
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It would be fairly easy to manipulate this one rule to give a club money though, I guess

You answer yourself about your idea,that's why I think is bad ;D

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182720.43 in reply to 182720.40
Date: 4/28/2011 2:16:39 PM
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I don't think we have to punish the manager that receives the money, it's just offer&demand.

Why we have to do a new rule that can have indirect effects on the market?

Just as an example the manager i bought him the player for 4,6M left the game...

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182720.44 in reply to 182720.43
Date: 4/28/2011 2:24:05 PM
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And there could be a fair chance that they spend it on really expensive players right away and burn through their money due to high salary instead of building a monumental addition to their arena.

And they don't get to have a trainee worth 4 million for free :P

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182720.45 in reply to 182720.43
Date: 4/28/2011 2:41:02 PM
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I don't think we have to punish the manager that receives the money, it's just offer&demand.

Why we have to do a new rule that can have indirect effects on the market?

Just as an example the manager i bought him the player for 4,6M left the game...

This is not punish some manager,this is rebalance the game
Because some sales are really outliers in the market contests,and they don't have reasons to exist

And it's not necessary a new rule to make this,TPA yet exists and works well if there's the will to make it work ;D

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182720.46 in reply to 182720.34
Date: 4/29/2011 1:14:42 AM
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The difference between this game, a computer simulation, and real life should be apparent. The game has to find ways, often very difficult, to simulate real life. It is my opinion that very few players of the same height and potential will begin with the exact same skill set, be trained exctly the same, or have the exact same skill set when they cease to be trained. A very basic search of the TL confirmed this for me. I searched 26 year old, 7'0" MVP guys. So if there is the possibility that they can be trained to be exactly the same, my search results showed that it just doesn't happen. The reality of training results is very different from the possibility. In my mind, this creates a result very similar to what happens in real life.

I don't feel any need to correct you. You have every right to interpret what I wrote however you choose. That's one of the great things about a forum. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you are wrong. I would say, in my defense, that I don't think it is narrow minded to say that parts of the game are parts of the game, or to say that a draft is and should be a random thing, with winners and losers roughly weighted for the worse teams to do better than the better teams.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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182720.47 in reply to 182720.46
Date: 4/29/2011 6:55:42 AM
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To say that a TPA is necessary when two respected and legitimate managers become involved in a bid war is ludicrous. Supply and demand is a very simple concept. There is luck involved in the draft, as there should be. Although there are opportunities for managers to increase or decrease their odds of a successful draft based on what they are willing to invest. Risk and reward is also a very simple concept.
Tomorrow we can drive around this town...

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