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You need about 5 seasons to grow a full arena, even less in small countries where you start in D1/D2.

During these 5 first seasons, you can train young players and make a lot of money when selling them, you can learn how the player market works, how to build a roster, how the staff market works, how the GE works, how national teams work, how the drafting system works and make money selling or training these young draftees... You can learn how to compete in lower divisions and in the cup's first rounds.
There are already so many things you can do during this first IRL year (or year and a half) before thinking about being competitive in your country's first division, which can then be your goal for the next seasons.

This is a long-term strategy game and building an arena is part of it. Some people might not enjoy it, but personally I don't enjoy it when game updates get rid of some tricky parts which make this game a bit hard to master.

I'm quite new here and I wholeheartedly with this. Absolutely.

With you in the first place who proposed to increase the arena of newcomers gradually and then with all those who agreed with that proposal.

Your proposal was to gradually increase the starting level of the arenas for new players.
For example this season 6k, the next 7k, the one after 8k etc ..
This is to avoid losing competitiveness to those who start this season rather than the next and so on ..
But it doesn't make sense .. because compared to those who created the team until yesterday, those who create it in a few seasons will have a gap that they will have to fill with money ..

Moreover, raising a bit of arena every season seems to be just a mockery to the new ones .. a way to sweeten the pill ..
As if every year they raise the limit for you to retire for one year .. so that you never reach it ..

And the old managers? Those who built the arena with money and not with welfare?
For them it will be just another setback that they will have to take only because they are loyal users ..
As well as the "Consilidazione delle Leagues" which promoted seriously inferior teams to higher leagues.
evidently consistency and fidelity in this game are considered a defect to be remedied ..

Every time I read this type of proposal I ask myself more and more questions .. and maybe I start to think that it is my trust that is misplaced ..

(I apologize if you don't understand .. english is not my strong point and I use translators to read and write in English .. then I reread and try to correct what I think may be wrong .. but I don't know that well English..)

Last edited by Dormouse at 11/1/2022 7:11:45 PM

As I had already expressed in a previous post, in my opinion we should first of all understand if these actions, already undertaken in the past, have brought benefits for the purpose we want to pursue .. otherwise we will continue to give things to new subscribers who will not remain the same..
Has an assessment been made of whether the previous arena increase has benefited? Has an assessment been made of whether the inclusion of the players with the stars has brought the desired benefit? Will an assessment be made as to whether "Leagues Consolidation" will bring benefits?
And I hope that these evaluations, if they have been made or will be done, are not a mere asking the new subscribers "did you like the ready-made soup and the competitive advantage?"

When I said that the game does not reward loyalty I don't mean "it is not the game that does not reward loyalty", but "whoever manages the game does not reward loyalty" ..

The ability of a manager to reach Serie A is not only a matter of time, but also of application and ability ... and these are not formed only with time or with gifts ... but are formed with interest, participation and constancy ..
Some time ago an American user had made a post in which he talked about what one had to do to be competitive in this game .. and what came out was a very substantial commitment in various aspects of the game, including temporal ones .. And there do we expect that those who arrive now in a short time can become competitive just because we give them two things? When have forums and communities been snubbed for a long time and never helped to grow in sharing, participation and belonging to this game?
We discover today that the game is "made" by users and if there are no users, the game does not exist?