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91212.37 in reply to 91212.36
Date: 5/24/2009 11:15:53 AM
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The transfer list works as a simple, first-price auction. That is, whatever value you enter as your bid, that's what you'll pay if you win the auction. Be mindful of your available funds when bidding; once you bid on a player, those funds are deducted from your available balance for as long as you are the high bidder, even though you might not end up winning the auction. The bank doesn't want you defaulting on your bid, so you can't use that money for other purposes. But don't worry - if someone else outbids you, you'll get your money back immediately.


If you read this section of the rules, I don't see how you could fail to understand that once you bid on a player, your money is gone unless someone else outbids you.

I did the same thing when I was a noob -- bid $150,000 on a guy who wasn't really worth it, regretted it, sold him later for a $50K loss, and drafted the guy who now tears up opponents nightly for me. No backsies. If you don't want to be the Isaiah Thomas of BuzzerBeater, don't make decisions without thinking first.

Last edited by crimedevil at 5/24/2009 11:29:53 AM

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P.S. Rules are still rules. Nomatter if they are in RL or in a game.

From: bam65

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Other sports sims make an auction system work while allowing cancellation of bids without it affecting anything negatively. You can look at it that way too Kozlodoev.

There's a difference between real life and a game Kukoc. If you don't realize that then it could be a problem for you.

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91212.40 in reply to 91212.39
Date: 5/24/2009 2:02:27 PM
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That statement doesn't actually come out and say that your bid will be final Crime devil. To alleviate any doubt there should be a sentence in there which says exactly that.

I did notice there's a confirmation message that gives you a second chance when you fire a player. Why can't there be something like that for bids? It doesn't have to be a button, just a warning message before the bid gets processed that says your bid will be final unless you get outbid.

From: Milestone

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Date: 5/24/2009 2:13:39 PM
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Other sports sims make an auction system work while allowing cancellation of bids without it affecting anything negatively. You can look at it that way too Kozlodoev.

There's a difference between real life and a game Kukoc. If you don't realize that then it could be a problem for you.


ad hominem is completely unnecessary. Just because others do it doesn't mean it's correct, investments are final, that's the rule. So simply invest carefully and everything is fine.

From: Kukoc

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Date: 5/24/2009 2:27:46 PM
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Cancelling of bid's can only work in games where you buy you're players from computers or something that does not affect another player manager directly. Let me give you an example.
There is a great player that has a price range 2mil-4mil on the market with starting bid 1000$ now I am a divIII team that wants it badly but I can not manage to bid against guys in divII and divI. I have a friend that leads the divI and has a lot of cash laying around. I discover the player bid 1k on it and let my friend bid 10mil right after my bid. Now everyone looks at the transfer market and sees that this guy is not worth going after. Just before the end of auction my friend cancels his bid and I get the player for 1k.

Are rules in real life different things than rules in a game? Rules are rules.

I hope you realize, you can not pull a life card, in a game, that does not require you to log in daily:D

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Date: 5/24/2009 2:42:42 PM
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I did notice there's a confirmation message that gives you a second chance when you fire a player. Why can't there be something like that for bids? It doesn't have to be a button, just a warning message before the bid gets processed that says your bid will be final unless you get outbid.


If that's the point of this thread, I believe it belongs in the Suggestions forum.

Last edited by crimedevil at 5/24/2009 2:56:22 PM

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91212.44 in reply to 91212.23
Date: 5/24/2009 8:24:39 PM
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I'm getting a kick out of the analogies though. One person compares it to a real life auction, another says it's not Monopoly. It's not like a real life auction because it's a game


if it's not real life and a game (and yes it is) what's your reason for such an anger. I am sure you will be succesfull in BB with that level of passion and agression no matter how many times you bid to the wrong guy. cheers.

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91212.45 in reply to 91212.44
Date: 5/24/2009 9:50:30 PM
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It's not an ad hominem to post what I did. I'm just saying that an auction system that allows bid cancellations works for other games without screwing up the market. It's actually more of a fallacy to claim that such a system won't work here because it wouldn't necessarily be an accurate claim.

I have played sports sims that use the auction system and allowed cancellation of bids that involve human owners and they work just fine Kukoc. Also, rules here are different than in real life. Rules in real life are made for the safety and structure of society. The rules here are for a game that's not life or death. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

I didn't say I was angry Gates. I would be upset if I had paid for this game but since it's free the whole bid thing becomes more of an annoyance that affects the fun factor of playing more than anything.

It's all a moot point now since the player was placed on my team today. I might post something about a warning message for bids in the suggestion section if such an area exists.

From: Milestone

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There's a difference between real life and a game Kukoc. If you don't realize that then it could be a problem for you.


That's an ad hominem. Same concept rules here govern safety and structure of the game. Hardly apples and oranges.

Suggestion forum http://www.buzzerbeater.com/BBWeb/Forum/read.aspx?folder=3


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Date: 5/25/2009 5:51:34 AM
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and how they handle the cases like above?

Did they make dark auctions, where you bid secretly on players and in the end the one with the highest bid wins?

Did they avoid bidding wars in the end without delaying the deadline fpor some additional minutes(even there you could sheat with bids)?

Which maneging sims use that system?

Edit: A confirmation wasn't that bad, if you made it optinal, so that you could ecide in your profil if you like it.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/25/2009 5:52:24 AM

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