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His SG only has 0,3 assists with 22 minutes per game and his team was playing look inside all season. He obviously has low passing so he should have taken more shots or commited more turnovers but he didn't.

Yes, I know my assists average aren't great but that's mainly because my inside players have poor passing. It's still a fact that my Point guard commited 5 turnovers against a respectable outside defense while he is only averaging 1.3 per 28 minutes against better defenses.

Well none of my players were getting hot, while some of them were in proficient gameshape, why?

His outside players were in strong gameshape with low dmi while mine are able to shoot and that game weren't, that's what unbelievable. Plus, you can check his games and see that when he's playing m2m, the opponents SF have a good game, so I give him strong or proficient outside defense at most. While playing in a 3-2 zone, my guards who have good passing should have been able to place the ball where his SF was so we could get a higher percentage shot, but this didn't happen.

Right now, using the salary calculator, my PG's salary is 23k, and he is getting at least 2 more pops this season. Yes I know about his abilities to shoot but he has improved this season in Jumpshot and Jump range, so his percentage isn't really a indication of his skills.

You're wrong about his passing but the games which messed up his percentagem were against better small forwards and in better gameshape (he has high stamina so it's kinda hard to manage his GS). He actually has nice stamina also.

Yes you're right about the PF, he has atrocious passing so I didn't want to play motion because he could hurt me with his turnovers but he did it anyway with RnG.

There is no way I can enjoy the game where I keep losing ridiculous games like this one.

PS: The team that I'm probably playing in the play-outs has their players for sale. I already saved their skills so I can laugh while my players miss shot after shot with his bad players.

Your SG is 22 yo but hasn't played much. Is he pitiful XP by chance ?

He is pitiful experience,but I don't think that a player with few experience is afraid to shoot,especially if he has a weak avdersary against...it would have been more logical if he shoot too much,also bad shots and he then missed,but it isn't understendable why he didn't even shot

His SG only has 0,3 assists with 22 minutes per game and his team was playing look inside all season. He obviously has low passing so he should have taken more shots or commited more turnovers but he didn't.

Yes, as I have said, his SG is full OD, he can't shoot or pass. Now the starting SG could have shot a bit more but he didn't and it doesn't mean something is horribly wrong. The guards didn't perform offensively so what's your point ? Look at the larger picture, the guards went 5-24 in shooting, the guards scoring isn't the problem.

You think he should have found himself left with no option more often and should have more TOs. The other guards did the job for him to throw away possession with awful shots when faced with no option.
He averages 1.3 TO in 22 min, he played 35 min, let's say he could have 2 TOs and he had 0, it's a simple statistic variability.

What is important is that the guards were inefficient offensively as expected.

The point is that you said : "There is no reason why his weak guards and the PF playing at the SF position should stop my offense but my 3 outside players went 23-65 FG."

His guards are very weak in offence but they can defend. Actually, stopping your offence is the ONLY thing they have a chance to do. Not granted but in the realm of the possibilities. The 9k SG may have sensational OD, you can find such players in the TL.

Yes, I know my assists average aren't great but that's mainly because my inside players have poor passing. It's still a fact that my Point guard commited 5 turnovers against a respectable outside defense while he is only averaging 1.3 per 28 minutes against better defenses.

Your bigs and the SF can't pass so you can't be surprised sometimes you will log more TOs than assists.

Your PG took way more shots than usual. And coincidentally, your SG took way more shots than usual too... How is that ? Both in the same game ? How bizarre...
Doesn't it look like they were stuck with the ball, cut from the rest of the team, forced to throw bricks or make mistakes ?
A few times, your SF got the ball facing up the basket but was too isolated and well guarded, left with the only option to shoot since he can't pass and probably has relatively high driving that entices him to shoot... I suspect he is a JS monoskilled SF : gigantic amounts of JS, ok JR, good DR, no passing, low IS.

You are not giving proper credit to your rival. His team is a good defensive team. None of his outside players is a threat which is killing his overall results but he still manages to be somewhat competitive in your league. He has a better defence than you think, take into account his starters barely played in the last QT and you can't tell from the ratings if the guards have ID and the bigs OD.

Well none of my players were getting hot, while some of them were in proficient gameshape, why?

It's not directly linked to GS. Making baskets, sinking series of shots helps scoring the next attempt. It works in reverse too, missing shots makes the next one a bit more difficult.

His outside players were in strong gameshape with low dmi while mine are able to shoot and that game weren't, that's what unbelievable.

Then how come you are the worst offence of your league bar the team with no player ?
Offensively, you are weak in your league, mate :(

Plus, you can check his games and see that when he's playing m2m, the opponents SF have a good game, so I give him strong or proficient outside defense at most. While playing in a 3-2 zone, my guards who have good passing should have been able to place the ball where his SF was so we could get a higher percentage shot, but this didn't happen.

He played M2M 6 times in league games this season. 2 times, the opponent SF had a good game : Aziados spurs away, 1st game of the season, 50k SF and AEISE away, 60k SF. I don't think you can compare your SF to those 2 players.

Right now, using the salary calculator, my PG's salary is 23k, and he is getting at least 2 more pops this season. Yes I know about his abilities to shoot but he has improved this season in Jumpshot and Jump range, so his percentage isn't really a indication of his skills.

Which salary calculator and version are you using ? It looks outdated. Horta has a DMI of 241100 at proficient GS, he is worth a salary around 18k at the moment.

You're wrong about his passing but the games which messed up his percentagem were against better small forwards and in better gameshape (he has high stamina so it's kinda hard to manage his GS). He actually has nice stamina also.

I may be wrong but not too far off.

Yes you're right about the PF, he has atrocious passing so I didn't want to play motion because he could hurt me with his turnovers but he did it anyway with RnG.

His complete lack of passing will hurt you with any tactic. You could try motion, if he is a good scorer, it could even work surprisingly well despite his weakness in passing. If he is a considered a credible offensive threat by the GE, it will help your guards to have better looks at the basket.

There is no way I can enjoy the game where I keep losing ridiculous games like this one.

If you manage to turn it around and win, you will enjoy it. No fun in cheap wins :)

PS: The team that I'm probably playing in the play-outs has their players for sale. I already saved their skills so I can laugh while my players miss shot after shot with his bad players.

I will follow your team but what you should save is the skills of the players he will buy ;p

He is not exactly afraid to shoot, xp "measures" his ability to make decisions and even probably more.

Players don't shoot simply because of a favorable matchup or else they would never make mistakes. A player may have a good look and fail to recognize it or hesitate a second, he may think he can easily drive to the basket then finds himself face to face with that big dominant center who has suddenly appeared popping from nowhere... Players make decisions, to shoot or pass, to go for a steal or not, etc... In my opinion, the decision making depends partly on the XP.

Look, you can see experienced players overperforming in the last QT, especially in close games. Not only they don't seem to make mistakes but they perform over their ability like if they had buffed skills. Why shouldn't it work in reverse with inexperienced players ?

I was just asking, I reckon it's a bit odd he wasn't more involved in offence guarded by a insignificant player... who is 37 :/

What I don't get is how with a weak offensive flow like he has, his inside players shouldn't shot that much. Even if he has sensational OD, he is only on strong gameshape and my players all had more jumpshot than sensational. My outside players should've shot much better than they did.

Well I have faced better players and better defences and I didn't have that problem and If his outside players have between prominent and sensational outside defense, my guards passing would've been just fine.

My SF has good JS, not so good JR, not enough passing but has some IS.

If he has players that good on the defensive end why does he only put up respectable on a 3-2 zone?
Comparing with his defense, my offense is good enough to score more points than I did.

I've actually seen aziado's small forward and he had less jumpshot tham mine.
I'm using moutlinho's salary calculator, version 1.1

The PF isn't a starter but I thought that I could take advantage of his high JS and JR, but it didn't go out as planned.

Don't think he's selling any of his players, they're just too expensive.

Not everything is in the ratings. He averages 18.1 assists compared to your 13.5. His defensive record is 1856, yours is 1823. It's more complex than JS vs OD. Think about skills you might underestimate the importance in defence. He has hold teams with better OS than yours to 70-80 points.

You average only 13.5 assists because your team can't pass the ball efficiently or because your team can't score consistantly in the league. If you had both, you'd have a higher number of assists per game. You are mistaken not to acknowledge it. You can't claim you have fine passing AND good scorers for the league.

You claimed everytime Aves has played M2M, the opponent SF shone. I crawled through every league game and showed you were mistaken. Now Aziado's SF has less JS than your SF ? Well, Aziado's SF is more efficient than yours, more points scored, in less minutes, with a better %, better in every stats safe SB (0.6 to your 0.7). He's better but it doesn't matter, that was not the point.

When the salary will update, I will come back to you and we will see your PG's new salary :)

I was just asking, I reckon it's a bit odd he wasn't more involved in offence guarded by a insignificant player... who is 37 :/

Only "a bit" odd? ;D

OK. i know he hat homecourt advantage, and better outside offense and defense, but my inner game should be enougth to overcome that (inside shots have better efficiency than outside shots...)! And what really pissed me off was the OT result... 15 pt difference.... way to much considering he had no PF or C playing!

It's a late answer, but maybe can help you anyway

Your outside players, especially your PG, have bad passing. You should never play Low post if you don't have enough of good passing. At least play Look inside.

The passing made a lot of difference; take a look at your C. FG of 5-13. This would not happen if your PG had better passing and you'd win.

So for me, the main reason you lost is you chose a wrong tactic.