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I think the whole 'tanking' debate isnt very black/white.

If it was, then anyone who isnt trying to win the championship every single season, is essentially tanking.
That means that this year, i tanked. and seasons 12, 13, 14, and last season, i tanked.

If i use myself as an example, i knew that i wasnt going to be able to win the championship, but at the same time, was i going to buy up a roster that maxed out my revenue? Of course not. in fact i sold some guys, so that i could maximise my revenue.
Is that tanking? maybe it is. Its pretty strategic really and wise and its just part of the game unfortunately.
Is what TL did unfair? Not in the spirit of the game? Personally, i dont see it any different to a 4th placed team TIE'ing against the top side one week , in order to build up enthusiasm so that they can beat the 2nd placed team the following week. No different to a team setting a dud-lineup in game 2 of the finals, in order to save players for the 3rd and final game at home.
Tactics or tanking? One and the same as far as im concerned. Thats just my opinion on it.
However I do agree, that blowing a whole season to save money, only to come back right at the end, probably needs to be made less attrative an option in the game.

I don't have a problem with teams tanking and demoting, the issue I have is with teams that can tank and save up a whole bunch of cash and then buy up a roster two days before the playoffs/relegation series. I don't think that's how the game was ever intended to work.

I still think there's an easy fix - only teams that are on your roster prior to the all-star game are eligible to play in the playoffs.

That's why in some of the real life leagues I play in I detest that there is no shot clock... it doesn't stop me from telling the team to rotate ball at the top at the end of close games to run down the clock though.

Haha agreed with that. I'll get tremell along to tell you about some of the antics we got up to when trying to close out games...

Ok tremell is in the house.

Most famous clock waste I was involved in during my time involved the cagey veteran of social basketball matt1986.

We were up by 1 with about 30sec to go playing a bunch of refs and faggots that thought they ran the joint. Anyway loose ball near half court, it was pretty much going off our team so instead of trying the hopeless save back into the court Matt grabs it and pretends to not be able to stop running. At which stage he sets off and runs all the way across to the other side of the court next to us where a game is being played! Being in no rush he showed fake desperation to get back to our court by holding his hands and ball up in the air whilst the other game continued providing him with no chance of getting back before the game finished. The clock expired we won and a famous victory and many laughs were shared by our team. I think Matt got threatened to be beaten up by some angry guy then lol.

we just used to use the old 'up by 1, 30 seconds left, foul and call subs', including a very slow transition of players being subbed on-off.
no rules in regular season about stopping clock or no subs in last 2 mins back then. so it was a grand tactic to use.

Alright, lets kick this thing off already. I am ready to GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Good luck to Snuffies and also the two teams battling relegation.

Last edited by Violator at 8/14/2012 1:23:47 AM

Awesome, as quickly as it started it's all over. My 136k SF is out injured and won't be returning this Finals series... Unbelievable.

poor bastard ... bb is just too cruel to u mate

Matt brilliant post so +1 to you.

Vios tough luck you really haven't had much of a break recently, well except for broken bones.

Lordy is a friend of mine and a top guy, while I don't think anyone thinks it should be allowed, it currently is so he is just playing within the rules as he did in the very funny example with tremell. I have to admit I have been at the end of some very nasty games where things got completly out of hand because there was no clock and people had to foul HARD to get a chance to get back.

Looks like it didn't work for Lordy but at least he will be able to train in peace in division III.

Yes, whichever division III gets Da Fat Boy Slim will instead get an extra division III promotee. Skyhook Dreamers won the bot promotion race.

I even have the inside goss on the relegating ABBL teams. Baxter Bogans will be the worst, they have a fortune and plan to go 22-0 and bounce right back. They were at the salary floor all season and have the money, will and expertise to do it. Second worst would be hopelessly addicted, they have also been at the salary floor all season but spent a fortune on trainees and may be planning to train for a season, but they may do it while going for promotion, they certainly are rich. Best is probably the Goldfish, he has a great roster and only missed out on 5th in the last game of the season but he has been competing and probably has a lot less in the bank than the other two. But none are good. Fingers crossed for Datzilla!

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