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9808.378 in reply to 9808.376
Date: 4/11/2008 10:47:00 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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But Sir Lord of Doom, the question is: who's taking advantage from DT? Do u really think that the users are taking an advantage? I think that DT is an advantage only for who's making it and in this case I don't see any reason to keep alive this sistem to play. I can understand that some people considers trading funny that's why I don't want it will be cancelled but pls I think nobody can say that without DTs the market should be dead. What is the real problem is that training players is worst than trading players, you can obtain better and faster results if you trade players instead of train them and imo that's not good at all. Anyway my position I think should be clear, with 5 millions in my pocket it should be easy to win a championship; what hurts me is that if there are 100 people with 5 millions cash, you'll find those 100 guys in the first 100 positions...

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From: Iordanou

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I doesn't know a Fifa Manager and I didn't mean a contracts - it isn't necessary

If you fire a player - he just disappear - but he can occur after another season in another team with a some better, few worse skills (according to a logic) with an option to pick him up to your team... if you mean this case

or do a free players draft whole together to a every country and depends on a higher offer where he will goes with an limitation (example) max 3 players to pick or the dependence will be about anything else - but this is for another discussion and I should to focus more on that point to think out something...

...important is that there ARE the other ways and even more of them to fix that problem - that I wanted to tell

Last edited by Iordanou at 4/11/2008 10:48:53 AM

From: ZyZla

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I haven`t seen any day- trader in top leagues... and that says much... And if they ever will want to start play normally they first of all will give back all their profit to those who trained players for be able to pick good balanced team... and will pay even more...

ZyZla - ZyZlūnas ZyZlavotas ~c(=
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Date: 4/11/2008 11:08:12 AM
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...and will get a so good players - which will normal manager never get!

pay even more for a stolen money!

ok, enough provocation, ZyZla:)

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Date: 4/11/2008 11:11:34 AM
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that money aren`t stolen... I posted before that it`s your own responsibility with what price you put your player on TL...

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Date: 4/11/2008 11:48:51 AM
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But Sir Lord of Doom, the question is: who's taking advantage from DT? Do u really think that the users are taking an advantage? I think that DT is an advantage only for who's making it and in this case I don't see any reason to keep alive this sistem to play. I can understand that some people considers trading funny that's why I don't want it will be cancelled but pls I think nobody can say that without DTs the market should be dead. What is the real problem is that training players is worst than trading players, you can obtain better and faster results if you trade players instead of train them and imo that's not good at all. Anyway my position I think should be clear, with 5 millions in my pocket it should be easy to win a championship; what hurts me is that if there are 100 people with 5 millions cash, you'll find those 100 guys in the first 100 positions...

I do think DT has it's benefits, for that refer to my posts early in this tread.
I am not saying TL will be dead if DT stops.
I also am confident that, in a way, users also benefit from DT. Let's hypotheticaly asume there will be no daytrading whatsoever. Say you put up your SF (who is worth about 50000) for 0 dollars, now, if only 1 player is interested, he will buy him for 1000, and you get 970 dollars. Let's say that 2 people are interested, then yuo still sell for 1000, because quite possibly there are a few of such SF on the market, and both can buy for 1000. Now bring back the daytraders. The day traders will bid to about 40000, because they will relist him for 50000, and hope some people will start a bidwar. If the 1 player who wants him bids 41k, he probably will get him, so you as user will get about 39000 dollars more... In an other case, if nobody realy needs him, you can not sell him at all, while daytraders will almost always buy... But okay, it is a never ending discussion.
Finally, you say that with DT more money can be made than with training... I don't think so, if that was the case, you'd see in my history that I had bought and sold many many players lately, and in fact, I only sold the ones I trained, and was not able to buy new deals... the people who CAN, I have so much respect for, that they just earn the money they make, it REALY is hard, if it was not, everyone would do it.
Typically the more one hears shouting DT should stop, the less the have tried to practice it, or the more frustrated they are that they themselves don't seem to be able to do it as others can 'so easely' do it. The fact is, and stays, that everyone is free to do it... The ones crying out loud that it is very profitable should not wait any longer and start making money! There is no moral question involved since it is a game, and it has fictive players with no feelings. Don't come here with realism, because the ones doing, I'm sure, will be the first to fire their level 6 coach for a level 8 coach while they are winning all their games anyway (realism to fire a coach when a team wins all games??) and tons of other examples.
I'm betting it is pure jealousy, so I say, either make money any way you can (within the boundaries of the rules ofcourse) or choose not to, but do not criticise the ones who do...
EDIT: I am not pointing to anyone specific here, it is a general post for everyone, ned accidentaly seemed the be the one I sent the response to, but it was meant for everone...

Last edited by Lord of Doom at 4/11/2008 11:50:11 AM

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From: Tivoli

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Date: 4/11/2008 11:55:57 AM
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I haven`t seen any day- trader in top leagues


Its just a matter of time. Believe me. In ht, there is a Team (id 822336), who traded over 3000 Players and will win the championchip in germany.

And I think, its really bad for a browser game if the success is related to the time you spent to play it. That demotivated everybody who hasn´t plenty of time to play. But those people are often the real b-ball fans, because they spent their rare time to play BB.

And this game have more potential as hattrick has at the moment. Everybody is using the same tactics, using hattrick organizers and the spirit of soccer/football is gone.

Whatever.

From: ned

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Date: 4/11/2008 12:02:48 PM
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Wow! That's exactly what I think!
Bravo ;)

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From: Tivoli

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9808.386 in reply to 9808.385
Date: 4/11/2008 12:08:43 PM
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Yes ned, hopefully the BBs will do something in that direction. Some day.

From: Iordanou

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Date: 4/11/2008 12:09:49 PM
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I hope too:)

From: ibiza77
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Date: 4/11/2008 12:54:11 PM
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There is an easy solution: I will never ever buy any player that they (the DT) are selling.

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