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From: CrazyEye

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104275.38 in reply to 104275.37
Date: 8/16/2009 4:18:11 PM
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the problems starting in that a lot of players just watch the transfer of the next 1-2 hours, if there was a fitting player. Or a unsecure in bidding to much when they double up the current bid, were as to bid a high minimum don't bite that much with search for a bargain.

You could make very good on all times, but you have alot higher chanches at uncommon times with less rivality on the transfer market. And the FA, don't get listed when a team is on and so there is no regulation of the demand to the offers.

And you always talk for real prices, the current prices are real, the prices with fa are very silly because there are lot more listening betwenn wednesday/thursday then the other days, but nearly the same demand the other days so you have jumping prices betwenn a week.

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104275.40 in reply to 104275.39
Date: 8/16/2009 5:09:27 PM
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There would always be the same idiots in the database too, so I don't see much sense in this suggestion. The TLE _is_ the database, anyhow.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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104275.41 in reply to 104275.40
Date: 8/16/2009 5:17:20 PM
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i believe the improvement is, when you had a database like that:

100k
125k
150k
250k

The tpe say betwenn 100-250k, the overview will say that you normally pay 100-150k

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104275.42 in reply to 104275.41
Date: 8/16/2009 5:25:44 PM
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Right, except you still have no idea why one guy was boght at $250,000 which doesn't give you any better understanding of which of the two estimates is more precise.

What if the normal range is ~130-250k or, and one guy went low because he sold in the off-hours?

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/16/2009 5:27:18 PM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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104275.44 in reply to 104275.43
Date: 8/16/2009 5:43:26 PM
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TPE exists for those who aren't skilled enough to factor anything themselves -- and it's not meant to be a surgically precise price estimation.

Browsing the player market for players that have been bid on can typically give you a fair idea for what most players are worth, too.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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104275.45 in reply to 104275.42
Date: 8/16/2009 5:43:42 PM
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Right, except you still have no idea why one guy was boght at $250,000 which doesn't give you any better understanding of which of the two estimates is more precise.

What if the normal range is ~130-250k or, and one guy went low because he sold in the off-hours?


maybe a four man range isn't that representative, but there are also lot of player with alot players in the tpe ;) So you could see the runaway value, i was just to lazy to put in ten numbers. And the runaway values are normally people who don't have time to watch for a cheap player, or sells who run out during server problems.

The crazyest TPE i got was betwenn 50k and 4,5 Mio with 8 transfers, i believe the top end wasn't very intresting forthe estimation of the value ^^ And i recognize at least 3 cases like that with differences of 2 mio in my rooster, in the last seasons.

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104275.48 in reply to 104275.46
Date: 8/16/2009 6:45:01 PM
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This is the point that GM-K doesn't understand. TPE can get skewed as in your example, or have nothing at all, even when there have been previous transactions.
The point you don't understand is that TPE is designed not to be surgically precise, but to be simple and ready to use, otherwise it loses its purpose.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/16/2009 6:46:55 PM

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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