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From: Hadron

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161607.38 in reply to 161607.37
Date: 10/22/2010 2:29:09 PM
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Did you play him at SF on both defence and offence all season? And what level rebounding did he have?

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161607.40 in reply to 161607.35
Date: 10/23/2010 5:34:13 AM
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I always go back to this. My belief is that all of the 1v1 rebounding battles ultimately who wins the rebound. Yes, if the PF is lined up for the rebound, the PF-PF match-up matters the most. However, all the other match-ups contribute to who actually gets the rebound. I believe that is how they implemented "boxing out".


I also believe that Rebounding was implemented in such a way but certainly with a dominant effect of the match-up of the players that play in the range of the position where the ball falls into.

With this in mind you need only to look at the average opportunity of rebounds players compete for at a certain position. I reviewed unsystimatically a dozen of matches and found a range of 10 to 20% of rebs to be competed for at the SF position. (I couldn't see a direct relationship to selected tactics - does anyone know better?). I think that this is a significant opportunity.

On the other hand I have a guard with reb skill 8. This season he played only on PG/SG and averages a little less than 1 reb per 10 minutes - modest, I would say.

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161607.41 in reply to 161607.32
Date: 10/27/2010 3:26:40 AM
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I haven't seen too many SFs who average over 8 rpg here, so maybe in this game rebounding is seen as the forte of the big men?
Check out my guy: Maario Pruler (7710859). SF who for training purposes plays from PG to C in offense but all league games this season as SF in defense. He averages 8.5 RPG in 35.2 minutes. Then he played at least 36 minutes he got double-double in pts and rebs. I have trained his rebounding usually in off-seasons and the skills of rebounding now is dark brown:)

From: pmfg10

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161607.43 in reply to 161607.42
Date: 10/27/2010 7:08:43 PM
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I believe it's proficient.

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161607.44 in reply to 161607.42
Date: 10/28/2010 1:50:55 AM
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So his rebounding is prodigious?
If he had rebounding 16 he would have pretty poor SF skillset in total for such salary. pmfg10's bid is actually very close. Anyway I believe it's 100% worth it and I plan to add 1-2 levels depends how his potential will allow.

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161607.46 in reply to 161607.45
Date: 10/29/2010 2:36:44 PM
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I just compared my PF and SF with each other and have to agree, that SFs have a disadvantage in rebounding. MY SF has a 9 in rebounding, while my PF has a 7. Still, my PF makes five rebounds more than my SF, which is huge I think.
Both of them played the same position on defense and on offense by the way.

Yet, there are two things I would want to take into consideration. Firstly, my PF has +5 in experience, which has a decent impact on a players performance overall I think.
Secondly, many people like to play a 3-2 zone defense, which takes the SF further away from the basket, and, if one plays man to man defense it can be the same thing, if the opponent's SF is rather guard-like and shoots more from outside.