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I know,the market is fake,at all-there should not be any market for staff! it's the only game i have seen that have a system like this for staff...maybe BB programers would leave a roten system as long as it's "original" i dont know why else...come on it's been a lot of seasons since it was implanted i'm not the onlt one that hate it and in my domastic country ther have been others saying it suck,just look how much time and effort i put in this post and understand i truly think and belive it need to be changed...number game? salary prediction? it should be for players only! crazy game let a player get a yealy wage raise but staff memebr a weekly raise...i heard the less realistic more playable but this it not near realistic...just give my tea, doctor the arena income,give my trainer the players slarys! it's evenly realistic as this weekly raise...i dont have power to fight people that dont want to chnage and\or improve something and they say all the time "it's good" and dont even counter my sating about the lack og this system...dont give any good things on it-counter the bad ones i put in this post!

Untill it can be counterd in a logic way-the system still suck even if i suddenly think it is great.

Last edited by Doctor J at 9/26/2012 4:12:26 PM

I think the solution is to calculate staff salaries each season like players, but also make the staff trainable.

First, give them ages & five skills:
Doctor - Injury Reduction, Taping Injuries, Massage, Experience, Potential
Trainer - Skill Development, Fitness, Career Extension, Experience, Potential
PR-Manager - Marketing, National Appeal, Crowd Involvement, Experience, Potential

Then let teams invest directly in one of these "Professional Development" options each week:
- Injury Reduction Conference
- Training Conference
- Marketing Conference
- Injury Taping Seminar
- Fitness Seminar
- National Media Seminar
- Massage Clinic
- Skill Maintenance Clinic
- Cheerleading Clinic

Just like players, make young staff develop faster than old staff and make really old staff deteriorate.

Then, have a "HR Department" that has all the staff whom you could hire, including both a steady stream of new blood and the staff other teams have let go. The "HR Department" would be a TL for the staff, except everyone would be a free agent. Then all we need to do is base salaries on skill levels and experience, making older staff more expensive (someone has to pay into their pension funds!), and we have a functioning staff economy where you pay for what you get and have an incentive to change staff from time to time!

Additionally, there could be the random possibility that your staff might decide to leave, at which point they would spontaneously put themselves on the "HR Department" list (of course sending a notice to your "BB News" page so you could lure them back with a bonus). The desire to leave could even be a "hidden skill" that changes based on age, length of employment and success - like in RL.

This is a nice idea,i dont like the random leaving but still the idea that my stuff is getting better as i pay him more is A LOT better then the current you get nothing and still pay more system...i support this idea (:

Have been reading this thread.

One thing i STRONGLY disagree with is that the current staff system benefits the rich clubs. Why not? It is for no manager a good economical deal to buy a high-level manager. For a level 6 trainer you first need to pay for the manager. To have a trainer with 30k salary you probably have to pay at least 1 million. For a season you will have to pay around 1.5M and for two seasons around 2M. The added value of your players from having them trained is so low today that it must be rather rare that you can benefit economically from training a player. If your only goal is to have a U21 or senior team player you can pay these money and the rest of the team can be crap, at least if you want an U21 player.

I think that the cost for buying a trainer is way too high. Current system awards teams that decide to not train players. Even a level 4 trainer is rather expensive in buying price and salary and below that level the training effect is likely to be so low that the interest in training a player becomes minimal.

I can only see a few ways forward:
1) Increase the availability of high-level trainers so that it is much cheaper to buy them. At least a level 5 trainer should be possible to buy for any team so that it is possible to train players with a decent long-term benefit.

2) Have a fixed price for a trainer. I think that it is ridiculous with a transfer market for staff. I can understand that the developers wants to add things to do in the game but this thing is just stupid and mainly adds a moment of irritation into the game. Active teams are enough rewarded from e.g. better game shape of their players so no need to as well make them benefit economically from buying best priced staff continuously.

3) Fixed price and a fixed salary of trainer. Let the salary of the trainer be the main reason for wanting to have a lower level trainer. Make the salary high so that you only benefit from a high-level trainer if you actually train players that benefits much from training.

4) Maybe wrong thread to suggest it. Remove game shape training from the list of available trainings. This would make the role of the trainer much different and also promote teams to train players even if they are old. Hattrick removed game shape training and I have not noticed major complaints due to this.

Can't judge if it is fake clubs that buys the highest level trainers but what is very obvious is that these clubs surely can't be too successful either in short term or long term due to such trainer. I don't think it can ever be economically defensible to buy a level 7 trainer due to the very high price and salary. These trainers must be dominated by farm teams. I very much doubt that BB really likes farm teams. I don't think that they are within their interest. That you organize and get a good plan for training a player and during those seasons perhaps do sacrifice your team to some extent is one thing but farm teams ruin their economy without building a team.

But sure if you train 3 players genuinely you can get 6-7 million in total when you sell them 7 seasons later and for such money you can buy a rather good team ..