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236987.38 in reply to 236987.37
Date: 3/12/2013 3:40:08 PM
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I honestly think the alternative to the dominant Look Inside is a good Princeton team. The problem is that in order to build the right team for Princeton you'd have to train each player because the right type of bigs (and guards for that matter) just don't exist on the transfer market. By the time you finished building the team your original rookies would be almost ready to retire... definitely not worth the effort.

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236987.39 in reply to 236987.38
Date: 3/12/2013 5:08:30 PM
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I don't think Princeton is the answer. Even when I play guard/SF types in PF with princeton, they still take useless shots and I lose 90-60.

If any team will work with base offense it's mine, my guards are basically 15s in every offensive skill except JR (JS, DV, IS). So I might train some JR this season I dunno about buying different bigs, right now I just have TL filler junkers on the cheap.

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Date: 3/12/2013 5:50:41 PM
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I honestly think the alternative to the dominant Look Inside is a good Princeton team. The problem is that in order to build the right team for Princeton you'd have to train each player because the right type of bigs (and guards for that matter) just don't exist on the transfer market. By the time you finished building the team your original rookies would be almost ready to retire... definitely not worth the effort.


I think (and certainly hope) that you can scrape by with more run-of-the-mill guards for the Princeton. Training the big men is definitely where the challenge lies, and you pretty much have to do them from scratch since there's not exactly a glut of 6'8+ guys trained as guards from 18-21 who still have potential to pick up the necessary inside training.

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236987.41 in reply to 236987.40
Date: 3/12/2013 5:55:12 PM
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The thing with the guards is that in my plan I was going to try running a successful 2-3 zone at the same time. That would mean shot blocking on all my players, and to allow my bigs to be affordable I as going to sacrifice inside shot. So I'd end up with guards that have shot blocking and jump range and bigs that had high shot blocking instead of inside shot and were fantastic passers and decent shooters.

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Date: 3/12/2013 6:09:40 PM
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The thing with the guards is that in my plan I was going to try running a successful 2-3 zone at the same time. That would mean shot blocking on all my players, and to allow my bigs to be affordable I as going to sacrifice inside shot. So I'd end up with guards that have shot blocking and jump range and bigs that had high shot blocking instead of inside shot and were fantastic passers and decent shooters.


Yep, if you're going to pair it with the 2-3 then it definitely would require special guards as well. It would depend on how high shotblocking you're aiming for, too - if it's just in the high single digits range you may be fortunate enough to find some of the guys who are normally "overtrained" in 1 on 1 that have highish natural SB and maybe just fix their OD and add JR and passing.

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236987.43 in reply to 236987.42
Date: 3/12/2013 6:11:42 PM
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It would definitely require a team with deep pockets to grab the right kind of players and afford to train those kind of bigs.

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Date: 3/12/2013 6:18:59 PM
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I think the key in Princeton is having bigs (especially the C) who can pass well. In look inside we force our guards to have higher passing than JS so they feed the bigs the ball and I feel like it needs to be the same with the bigs in a Princeton offense.

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236987.45 in reply to 236987.37
Date: 3/12/2013 10:41:22 PM
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We don't like 'flavour' on offense here at the Droids orginization. It's only that annoying other half of the game that distracts you from the joys of defense, which has only one flavour-pain.

P.S. There's no secret to stopping LI, just play better D. (55957510)

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236987.46 in reply to 236987.45
Date: 3/13/2013 7:30:15 PM
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My buddy from III.6 has a power rankings formula that uses record, point differential, and average team ratings to spit out a ranking of each team. I borrowed it from him and plugged our numbers into the excel file. Anything to distract me from homework right?

POWER RANKINGS
1) Visionaries 28.437

2) ATL Hawks 21.153
3) Rdkin 21.128
4) Eugene Register Guard 18.470
5) The King and I 18.362

6) Flash Mashers 14.845
7) Kentucky Wildcats 13.087

8) Ron Swanson All-Stars 7.895
9) Window Lickers 6.162
10) Valhalla! 4.095
11) Footpath Leapers 2.612
12) black wall street 0.370

13) Thunder Gods -3.045
14) Bad Blue Boys -6.805
15) Tucumcari Whalers -7.238

16) Jr. Jazz All-Stars -17.147

I tried to kind of divide them up into groups, but I think it's interesting how dominant the Great 8 is in these... makes me nervous for inter-conference play. Anywho, these will get more accurate as the season goes on, but view them how you will!

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236987.47 in reply to 236987.46
Date: 3/13/2013 8:09:44 PM
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what's the track record for this formula?

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236987.48 in reply to 236987.47
Date: 3/13/2013 8:43:21 PM
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I found it fairly accurate when I was in Natellio's league, but like I said, it gets better the more games that have been played. Right now teams that won by a large amount have a large advantage over those that didn't. Eventually that will level out as average point differentials get closer to each other.

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