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Did not go through the whole thread.

What I suggested some time ago was to have a different evaluation scale for different ages. If a 18yo with a certain set of skills has a 4 balls rating, a 19yo with the exact same set of skills you could have 3 balls.

But now that the age becomes visible with a second scouting my suggestion has become quite a bit weaker.

i didn't ment for ALL number 1 picks...only the number 1 pick in the whole draft the pkayer all the teams trying to get you know they do a lot od buzz around them so why in the game the best plaer in the whole draft still might be on the beanch becouse his not good enugh for the first 5? why does a team manager invest 40K each week for 11 weeks paying 440K in season for a pkayer worth less then 200k in skills(not taking the pontentiol price rate)? if i'm a low rank team in the league and i'm givinf 440K i'm expecting to get A STAR if i pick the first player and if not then AT THE VERY LEAST A PLAYER THAT CAN PLAY GOOD IN MY FIRST TEAM,if not then the game dosn't help the low team in a helpfull way and thay invest a lot of money to get something that with a lot of luck might be worth the investmant mostly not...how many draft pciks are worth more them 440K right after the draft? without superstar potentionl and more i don't think you will find enough...it's logical that if the draft should help low teams(as said in the rules)and they invest 440K then at least they could have the option to get a pkayer that worth this money not 3 that toghter worth it...i want the draft to be closer to reality and what to do there are players that in age 18 are better then players in age 30 and can start in the first 5 before them in this game it's almost impossible i'm enjoing this game a lot but after investing year after year in the draft i'm positive it SHOULD change and the faster the better the 19 and 18 age players skills are not so importent but not even one pkayer with one "strong" skill in the whole draft(didn't seen one)is so weak you get the best player in the draft and wait for a center that you can put in the first 5 and then you can a player to warm your bench at least,i'm a high rank team in my leauge but the low team should get stronger in the end of seasen and that just don't happen with the current draft system

Train the player for a season and he might be worth a lot more. Train him two seasons and he will increase in value even more.

I think that is how you mainly benefit from the draft not by selling players straightly after the draft.

Can anyone who been around for some seasons comment on my ideas?

It can go either way, if you draft a young guy with a decent set of starting skills and high-ish potential then he can sell for quite a bit, simply because of how good he can become. But obviously if you train that same player for a few seasons, he can go for 10x that value.

I think it all depends on what your training schedule is. I sold a guy a couple of seasons ago for $500k that was a great prospect but came to me a season too late, so he just didn't fit into my plans. On the other hand, I bought a guy for over $1m because he fit exactly into my training plans and had decent secondary skills. Chances are I won't sell him but train him up to a decent level and then keep him because he's more use to me here than in another team. Plus, my finances are very healthy and I profit almost every week, so the whole "train+sell" issue isn't as important to me.

On a more global scale, I would agree with you, the main benefit of the draft is getting young players for free, training them and then selling them. But it's not the only way that the draft should be used.

For fun I checked the draft from my own league and top league in my country. Seems like the draft has not been too useful for most teams.

In top league most of the teams kept their drafts but they have played very little time. Strange decision though to have a player that only get a few minutes once in a while for a scrimmage. I would sell or sack instead.

In my league none of the players from this years draft has been that influential and from last years it been similar.

What I then get a bit curious about is the comparison between starting teams and drafts. From this little research I get the impression that starting teams got maybe a bit too good players in comparison. For me it would be logical that the starting teams almost only are there to be replaced. At other manager games they are very much like the local not so talentive players.

Anyone that got an opinion about this? I play my first season so surely got no possibility to more than reflect about this and maybe do it completely incorrect. I bought some cheap players but still two of my starters are from the team I was given and they are no worse than the rest of my players.

raft sld be able to upgrade a team. At least the 3 best players in the draft should be players of more than 6000$ salary. 5 more of over 5000$ salary.

This is my opinion. Not necessarily a star, but a player that can actually upgrade a weak team.

I don't know if it is so, I don't know what A or even A+ players look like, since this is going to be my first draft, and I don't know how many A's are in the draft anyway, (and I am picking last so my chances to get one of them are slim). I just hope that the weaker teams chances are better than in the lottary...

In whole Czech republic we have last season's draft only 2 players over 6000$ salary and 3 more over 5000$ salary.
It was only 18 years old players, so may be some others 19 years old also had salary over 6000$ or 5000$.
I didn't count players with potencial below starter (4) and players drafted by computer managed teams.
Czech republic had over 200 active teams at the time of that draft.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 11/12/2008 11:26:01 AM

Draft should be able to upgrade a team.

Actually it does. The better picks can be trained and in long term make your team stronger OR can be sold for higher amounts than older players with the same stats because those youngsters can be trained better.

It's your first season, it's time for you to start already making long term planning. Which positions you will train, which stats for how long.

It's too easy to demand better players in draft and expect draft itself will develop your team. It's your call to develop your team with the available opportunities.

I am not talking about myself.

Yes, it is my first season, yet I am not a clueless manager expecting the draft to do the work for me. I am going probably towards promotion (on the expense of several acvtive more veteran teams from my league. I am happy with what I have made from my team, I have a nice trainer, several nice trainees and I have my training program going quite well, thank you. I am not depending onthis draft.

Still, if a draft provides players that you can find anyway in the transfer list for few thousands. like I did, the whole idea is worthless.
You can always take an 18 years old player, develop him through training and go on like that.

This is how managers should upgrade their teams. Draft should provide some extra something, like in the NBA draft - the chance to turn a weak team into something new, with high potential. It is always up to the manager to fulfill this potential, but it is the draft's task to provide the potential

In Sweden there is one 18 year old with salary of above 6000 and that player (>7000 salary even) is from a new team so not from the draft. This is something that certainly puzzles me. I don't understand why not (at least) the top 5 from each draft is better than any player that new teams are awarded with. Salary does not of course prove that player is better than a 5000 salary player but it should be in my opinion for new players (including draft players in that expression).