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227450.383 in reply to 227450.379
Date: 12/4/2012 12:54:57 PM
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I KNOW there are big men with +5 better OD than the ones we are using but they are not even on the team.

Where?
This is list of all the best bigs out of NT roster:

Shibukji - allstar potential
Sonoda - faaaaaaaaar from OD 5+ ;-)
Wakatsuki - OD = 1
Motoori - quite good, however salary only 40k, too weak.
Kouzuki - yep, he has OD>=5. However he is 35yo, and every Friday he can drop by few levels.
Takizawa - OD = 1, allstar potential
Kishita - if trains can be good in future, now he has salary = 35k.
Suenami - great OD. 35yo, 36k.

All other bigs aren't even worth to say one word about them at this moment (of course few young players could be in NT in future).

In fact, there is only one big on NT level in Japan. It's Furusawa. And he was created in USA in NBBA team, then he played in Sharman. He is 31yo and in next cadency his skills will start to drop. There are few other bigs who are on U21 level. However he wouldn't be sure to play in U21 European Championships final.

So it means that in previous over than dozen seasons even ONE SINGLE good big Japan player weren't created.

However it's very easy. All is needed to play now in Japan NT is:
OD = 6
PS = 4
IS+ID+RB = 45.

And this player is sure to play in NT. Only 4 seasons training is needed.

In last draft was one good player - 18yo, MVP, OD=5, PS=6, TSP=45, 216cm. Quite good skills contribution, RB=1 isn't problem with this height, he should pop 3 times for every 4 RB trainings. He don't even need training out of position. However he was sold to Macau with price = 250k...

I can't help You if You don't want to help Yourself.

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227450.386 in reply to 227450.385
Date: 12/4/2012 8:10:30 PM
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Anyway Japan is a challenge to make the best of, to turnaround and blame the community. not a good route.

Look as I might, I still can't see where he's done that. Sure, he's stated that the players aren't there, and that some have not been well-trained... but this is mere statement of fact.
Please don't twist it merely because you have your own barrow to push.

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227450.387 in reply to 227450.386
Date: 12/4/2012 8:27:22 PM
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My thought on NTs within Japan is that we are going to have to be innovative. Creative. We are going to have to roll the dice on trying something different.

We are a small nation, with only a few trainers (most within the JBBL) willing to spend the money to train elite homegrown talent.
That means that for the foreseeable future, we are going to have a small talent pool to draw on. We simply won't have the players to compete on the world stage, as we don't have the population of players.
I think we need to go away from building teams in a similar vein to other nations, and focus entirely on something new.

It could fall flat on it's face, but I'd be interested in focusing on new skills - skills which normally fall outside the parameters of what's normally done within an NT.

On a very basic level, when I was coach of the Welsh U21 team (10 active members when I was there, only 3-4 actually *active* on the level that a national team/U21 manager wants!), we had some success focusing on Driving as something we wanted all players to have, beyond what the team manager would normally try. Now, we didn't win a whole lotta games, but the team enjoyed success beyond that which it normally did.
Of course... that's a pretty basic example, but it interests me. And it's what I think we should be doing on an NT level here in Japan (both U21 and the big boys)... we're not going to compete with bigger nations otherwise.

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227450.389 in reply to 227450.388
Date: 12/5/2012 2:10:23 AM
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It's an interesting thought.
Getting the 2-3 to work would be a worthy goal to me, and since I know some of the builds of our younger guys...with insite we coudl make the 2-3 work for us....we will need a lot of OD though.....in a 2-3 against Canada I am sure we lose by more with the players that we used.


The reality is that we're never going to go toe-to-toe with the bigger nations (or even middle-sized nations) using the same tactics as they do. Got to get an edge somewhere else, and work on that.
And a lot of the bigs currently being trained are managed by owners who have a desire to have a more 'well-rounded' player than the traditional PF/Cs for NTs.
Hell... if a motivated NT manager decided that we were going to go hell for leather on a 2-3 program and have s**tloads of SB (over ID perhaps?)? I'd go for that.

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227450.393 in reply to 227450.392
Date: 12/5/2012 6:42:04 AM
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I'm fine with BB. I have absolutely no issues with what he's doing. I'd *like* him to come up with some innovation... but if he does - he'll probably have my vote.

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