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From: AZ

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Date: 7/11/2012 11:13:18 AM
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Thats a bit surprising given your previous posts about almost winning the title. But I suppose focusing heavily on the Cup works too. You are the reigning Cup champ, so nobody can really knock your method.

From: Peluin

To: Coco
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216564.387 in reply to 216564.385
Date: 7/11/2012 4:18:43 PM
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(i) I doubt it.
(ii) works for me? I might actually be using (one of ?) the old predictor though. I can't remember, it's just some link I got from a plugin now.
(iii) I bet that could happen.

Last edited by Peluin at 7/11/2012 4:23:15 PM

From: AZ
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216564.388 in reply to 216564.387
Date: 7/12/2012 4:23:15 PM
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So I was bored, and was thinking of compiling some stats. However I did not want them skewed by tanked games and what not. The notion was to have actual legitimate contests, where both teams play something close to their A lineups and preferably, it's not a complete blowout.

After doing this subjective process, here are the totals I came up with for which teams have played how many real games.

Myopic Marauders - 12
Bullish Mentality - 11
Silverbacks - 10
Walker Wiggles - 10
Bruins - 9
Funky Town Fire - 9
Burlington Mountain Goats - 7
Black Mambas - 6
Lake Merritt Arrows - 6
Milwuakee Lethargy - 6
Reston Thumpers - 6
Visionaries - 5
Boomshakalakas - 5
Chitown Bangers - 5
King Drive Ballers - 2

I would have assumed LMA and Lethargy were playing more real games given their overall records. Yet it seems teams love tanking to them (I'm guilty of this myself). Perhaps if teams had chosen to act more like Myopic Marauders, we'd have seen some nice upsets from time to time. Which he had over Lethargy, and almost had over LMA in an Overtime contest.

Last edited by AZ at 7/12/2012 4:51:06 PM

From: AZ

To: Coco
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216564.390 in reply to 216564.389
Date: 7/12/2012 5:06:40 PM
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and I was ready to own you, had you made the mistake of *not* tanking our recent game.


I went through a crap ton of lineups and scenarios trying to figure out a way to play all 3 games and throw out an A lineup against you. All of them wound up with a far too weak lineup in the cup. And my current GS levels are just too low, I didn't think I had a good chance at beating you regardless.

However, you are lumping together three categories that should be kept distinct:


Yep, I definitely did, and I agree with your 3 categories. In terms of my statement about how we should all be more like Myopic Marauders, yeah, those categories should be factored in.

But this whole effort came about from me wanting to find more realistic stats about our teams than what Buzzer-Manager provides. So that list was started in order to figure out which games should even go into the team stats. The categories don't matter there.

The only teams that make a real *decision* to tank are type 3


It is easily the only acceptable reason to throw a chance at a game. But I feel like that depends more on the nature of the league. If other teams do it as well, nobody really gets penalized. However if enough people in one of our two conferences focuses instead on a future playoff run, they would then push the teams ready to sacrifice for the cup, down towards a relegation match.

It's kind of weird. In D2 and below, there was only 1 goal. Promotion. Yet here in the NBBA, we've been given the opportunity for 2 different goals. The Title and the Cup. I suppose that's just the nature of the NBBA, with 2 different goals, you'll have enough teams whose focus varies to where nobody gets too penalized by throwing a game or two for the Cup.

From: AZ

To: Coco
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216564.392 in reply to 216564.391
Date: 7/12/2012 5:39:08 PM
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Silverbacks are tough, that's a possible loss, he's got the offense to keep up with mine. In our last game I let him drain 7 three's, and he just beat Visionaries with the help of 10 three's. 3 point shooting is a big x-factor in this game. KDB as the last game is risky, especially since he might be in a spot to CT to avoid the relegation series.

It's difficult to predict. Cup draws and a week with either How's My Dirk Taste or Funky Town could turn an expected loss into a lucky win for one of you guys. I've been debating about if I can throw another game or not. I mean, I'm 1st in overall seed, yet 5th in PD.

From: modred

To: AZ
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216564.393 in reply to 216564.388
Date: 7/13/2012 6:26:13 AM
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Thanks.

A few of those "real" games were early in the season when I had delusions about actually winning games. I've also had a very favorable cup draw in terms of home games and opponents (tough ones falling on weeks where I can compete with a B lineup in the league or an obvious tanking game).

However, it pains me greatly to throw any league game ever. I have, grudgingly (perhaps even kicking and screaming), accepted that tanking most road games is the way it has to be but that does not mean I have to like it.

Speaking of NBBA tactics, it feels like given the standings in Big 8, that the "best strategic plan" for me would be to, once I am out of the cup, to sell off everyone who is not core and coast into 4th or 5th instead of fighting my way to 3rd. That seems to be the wrong incentive.

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Date: 7/13/2012 2:48:42 PM
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the "best strategic plan" for me would be ... to sell off everyone

You should have sold right before your most recent cup game.

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