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190315.385 in reply to 190315.66
Date: 9/27/2011 7:32:17 AM
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I really like iranian teams. My favourite team is "I Love Tehran".
I'm sarcastic, of course. You know why? Read this.

Have you ever wondered how this team managed to get in BBB beating VS, the strongest team in the world? Cheating, of course. Or if not cheating, being dishonest.
Let's make a step back, and take a look at http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/2168/overview.aspx?sea...
As you can see "Doondoon II" (=I Love Tehran) won the conference by 1 game. Do you see VS 21-1* ? That asterisk is a Walk-Over... guess with whom? Right, Walk-over with Tehran! That's how Tehran won his conference.

But hey, there is more!

First final game @VS: (36000315) He lost at home. Ok, maybe he was saving players to play BB final. Good move. Let's say it's ok.
Second final game away for VS: (36000316) Tehran crushed, even at their home, as we expect.
Third final game at home for VS: (36000317) He deliberately lost it. He sold some players just before the game (couldn't he wait 1 hour more?), and he even didn't set up the best line-up.

So I think Tehran (and VS as well) should be ashamed and shut up lifetime.

But he comes here and then he writes posts like:
I really don`t understand why some of you guys are just complaining about Misagh`s money.
He is my most important rival in Iranian league and also a good friend in this game.
But his money & wealth is just a motivation for me.
Just by training I am going to beat him in less than 2 seasons no matter how much money he has & I`m sure about that.
Stop crying & try to improve your own team.

LOL. VS is a great rival! Yeah, he's givin' you WO when you play against him! Big rival! ROFL
Hey BBB competitors have you heard?
Stop crying & try to improve your own team.

Listen to him.

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190315.386 in reply to 190315.385
Date: 9/27/2011 7:41:16 AM
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interesting, I think this needs to be investigated by GM's

From: Marot

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190315.387 in reply to 190315.386
Date: 9/27/2011 7:52:34 AM
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interesting, I think this needs to be investigated by GM's


As a GM said;

You can manipulate the competition giving free wins just because it's not on the rules.








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190315.388 in reply to 190315.387
Date: 9/27/2011 7:57:31 AM
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You are right, everything is in the rules. But this is "moral cheating", or dishonesty.

And they still have the boldness to post here.

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190315.389 in reply to 190315.388
Date: 9/27/2011 8:23:34 AM
BC Hostivař
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Jirkov
Unfortunatelly, you can't do anything against it. I don't expect any punishment from GM's to iranian teams due to walkover or given up final tiebreaker.
You can just show you don't like them :-)

Last edited by rwystyrk at 9/27/2011 8:24:22 AM

From: rwystyrk

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190315.391 in reply to 190315.387
Date: 9/27/2011 8:33:03 AM
BC Hostivař
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
12001200
Second Team:
Jirkov
And do you really prefer game with BB-police staff to current one? I think it would mean the end of the game. If any change is designed, it should be in way of affecting team economy, players game shape etc. But with current model with 3 competitive matches a week and minutes handling for good GS it's really difficult to find a model which would affected such a cases in a effective way without disadvantaging teams which give up game because they simple don't have enough players for 3 games a week or they are so weak that they lost to his opponent by huge PD even if they try their best.

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190315.392 in reply to 190315.390
Date: 9/27/2011 8:36:32 AM
BC Hostivař
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
12001200
Second Team:
Jirkov
if I Love Tehran wins the title, his participation in the tournament will always be discussed

I really don't expect him to win B3 title unless VS gives him up B3 final as well :-D
just like BC Hostivar two seasons ago..

I think it's really different story.


Last edited by rwystyrk at 9/27/2011 8:37:32 AM

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190315.393 in reply to 190315.385
Date: 9/27/2011 8:38:06 AM
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I think you are a bit off with the walkover significance in "I Love Tehrans" conference win in season 16. You have to take account also the point difference. Without the walkover he would still have +41 point difference to spend (for that 1-st spot in his conference). We can't say for sure he would of lost to VS by 21+ and we can't say how would the rest of the games be effected by a loss in that game for "I Love Tehran". We can only assume he would of lost by 26 (looking at the second finals game, where both were trying to win with the best lineup). But we all know, that games have different outcomes, due to luck, GS and entusiasm at the time.
I agree that VS deliberately lost in the finals, it's obvious... Should this behaviour be punished? I think it should, but it's for the GM's and BB's to decide.

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190315.394 in reply to 190315.390
Date: 9/27/2011 8:41:14 AM
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there's no difference between these cases i guess..

There's a big difference, indeed. We all know Toro's history, and we all know that now the team doesn't exist anymore.

From: CrazyEye

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190315.395 in reply to 190315.393
Date: 9/27/2011 9:03:06 AM
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I agree that VS deliberately lost in the finals, it's obvious... Should this behaviour be punished? I think it should, but it's for the GM's and BB's to decide.


we don't do it now, and i more then sure that we wouldn't charge such cases in the future.

Rwystyrk already pointed out, why you not playing everytime with your primary and ebst lineup. Then stuff like WO are quite often also mistakes(for example Laim semi final loss? Should he get punished for this manipulation of the championship?).

Then you also have weird tactics, which could manipulate games enough to make it happen etc. I don#t want to controlle, if tactical decision of managers makes sense, and punish them even more if they make faults.(and he got punish every week for the lost final already)

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