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190315.386 in reply to 190315.385
Date: 9/27/2011 7:41:16 AM
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interesting, I think this needs to be investigated by GM's

From: Marot

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190315.387 in reply to 190315.386
Date: 9/27/2011 7:52:34 AM
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interesting, I think this needs to be investigated by GM's


As a GM said;

You can manipulate the competition giving free wins just because it's not on the rules.








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190315.388 in reply to 190315.387
Date: 9/27/2011 7:57:31 AM
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You are right, everything is in the rules. But this is "moral cheating", or dishonesty.

And they still have the boldness to post here.

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190315.389 in reply to 190315.388
Date: 9/27/2011 8:23:34 AM
BC Hostivař
II.2
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Jirkov
Unfortunatelly, you can't do anything against it. I don't expect any punishment from GM's to iranian teams due to walkover or given up final tiebreaker.
You can just show you don't like them :-)

Last edited by rwystyrk at 9/27/2011 8:24:22 AM

From: rwystyrk

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190315.391 in reply to 190315.387
Date: 9/27/2011 8:33:03 AM
BC Hostivař
II.2
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Second Team:
Jirkov
And do you really prefer game with BB-police staff to current one? I think it would mean the end of the game. If any change is designed, it should be in way of affecting team economy, players game shape etc. But with current model with 3 competitive matches a week and minutes handling for good GS it's really difficult to find a model which would affected such a cases in a effective way without disadvantaging teams which give up game because they simple don't have enough players for 3 games a week or they are so weak that they lost to his opponent by huge PD even if they try their best.

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190315.392 in reply to 190315.390
Date: 9/27/2011 8:36:32 AM
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Second Team:
Jirkov
if I Love Tehran wins the title, his participation in the tournament will always be discussed

I really don't expect him to win B3 title unless VS gives him up B3 final as well :-D
just like BC Hostivar two seasons ago..

I think it's really different story.


Last edited by rwystyrk at 9/27/2011 8:37:32 AM

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190315.393 in reply to 190315.385
Date: 9/27/2011 8:38:06 AM
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I think you are a bit off with the walkover significance in "I Love Tehrans" conference win in season 16. You have to take account also the point difference. Without the walkover he would still have +41 point difference to spend (for that 1-st spot in his conference). We can't say for sure he would of lost to VS by 21+ and we can't say how would the rest of the games be effected by a loss in that game for "I Love Tehran". We can only assume he would of lost by 26 (looking at the second finals game, where both were trying to win with the best lineup). But we all know, that games have different outcomes, due to luck, GS and entusiasm at the time.
I agree that VS deliberately lost in the finals, it's obvious... Should this behaviour be punished? I think it should, but it's for the GM's and BB's to decide.

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190315.394 in reply to 190315.390
Date: 9/27/2011 8:41:14 AM
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there's no difference between these cases i guess..

There's a big difference, indeed. We all know Toro's history, and we all know that now the team doesn't exist anymore.

From: CrazyEye

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190315.395 in reply to 190315.393
Date: 9/27/2011 9:03:06 AM
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I agree that VS deliberately lost in the finals, it's obvious... Should this behaviour be punished? I think it should, but it's for the GM's and BB's to decide.


we don't do it now, and i more then sure that we wouldn't charge such cases in the future.

Rwystyrk already pointed out, why you not playing everytime with your primary and ebst lineup. Then stuff like WO are quite often also mistakes(for example Laim semi final loss? Should he get punished for this manipulation of the championship?).

Then you also have weird tactics, which could manipulate games enough to make it happen etc. I don#t want to controlle, if tactical decision of managers makes sense, and punish them even more if they make faults.(and he got punish every week for the lost final already)

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190315.396 in reply to 190315.389
Date: 9/27/2011 9:09:13 AM
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It's "beautiful" to see how BBB lost every kind his original spirit,it was thought to esatbilishing who is the best manager in the world....actually is only about money and luck about injuries...

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