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218937.388 in reply to 218937.379
Date: 6/27/2012 6:37:22 AM
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It is a problem and it shouldn't be one of the tactics.

I demoted to 3rd league. I now have the largest arena in Australia, and a very large sum of money in reserves, as well as an ok 2nd league roster (maybe with a minor salary change).

I did this through tanking.

Even though I chose this tactic, I still think it's bad for the game. I think it's better if we focus on, as I've already suggested, basketball strategy not some silly flaw in the game.

It reminds me of some older games I'd play where the AI wasn't intelligent enough to get around an obstacle. Get the AI stuck on the obstacle and you can just kill it using ranged attacks. While this is a good strategy, I would prefer to play a game that is more realistic.

From: Axis123

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218937.389 in reply to 218937.380
Date: 6/27/2012 8:05:14 AM
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I don't see a problem with people tanking. The only problem is that they make so much money without a real big drop in attendance.

Agreed +1 ball.

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Date: 6/27/2012 8:05:50 AM
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surely thats the point re attendence, if a home team tanks then the atendence should be hit say 10%, if they tank next home game 20% and so on - that will stop their income - the issue is how to measure it.

We had a team in a div last year that sold every player approx 3 or 4 games before the end and gave walkovers, they started doing it this season but have since purchased some basic players but are obviously going down - they should have all their home game income taken away - end of story.


Agreed +1 ball.

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Date: 6/27/2012 8:48:39 AM
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surely thats the point re attendence, if a home team tanks then the atendence should be hit say 10%, if they tank next home game 20% and so on - that will stop their income - the issue is how to measure

Imagine, You played in strong D lll without big incomes.
Happily you was promoted to D ll. Now you need reinforcement, but you dont have enaugh money. You loosing game by game and finally you will say: hey its not good idea to hit my attendance ! I am not tanker !!! So what i wanna say its important to have more indications for tankers. Games loosing not enaugh ;)

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218937.392 in reply to 218937.391
Date: 6/27/2012 10:19:16 AM
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Look through the thread. There are other really good ideas of how to indicate a true tanker.

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218937.393 in reply to 218937.335
Date: 6/27/2012 4:26:32 PM
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what if they cant pay the fees..

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218937.395 in reply to 218937.392
Date: 6/27/2012 5:33:31 PM
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I saw but i m talking to this guy who talking just about loosing games ;)

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Date: 6/27/2012 8:48:52 PM
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Constantly losing games by a large margin, even if it doesn't mean you are a tanker, should still mean that your attendance drops. Think about it.. Why would fans come to see your game if you get smashed every time? Well, more accurately, would you even have many fans?

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218937.397 in reply to 218937.396
Date: 6/28/2012 2:08:31 AM
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As i sad i agree with that but with some additions

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218937.398 in reply to 218937.377
Date: 6/30/2012 11:53:31 PM
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>Tanking is a form of basketball team management, though.

Not when forfeits, television agreements and gate revenues are involved.

As a game strategy yes, but again, it goes against the concept of fair play.

Yes, tanking in real life does happen sometimes. An example from a different sport: Last year Bruce Arena fielded a joke lineup for the LA Galaxy in a late stage of the US Open Cup. He didn't make a concerted effort to win, because he wanted his best players to be available for the next league game.

That, I and I don't think any fans of the Galaxy would have a major problem with. Some were disappointed, but, at the same time, the Galaxy carries a roster of dozens of players who are reserves and that is the scenario where they get their PT (similar to the scrimmages in this game).

So, even though they didn't make an effort to win the game, they were still developing the team beyond their first team. They also were fielding a full team in both league and reserve (Cup) games.

So, from that point of view, no, tanking is not a real-life strategy. The tanking we are talking about here I am pretty sure is not what some might reasonably consider prioritization of development and resources.


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