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From: Marot

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93604.389 in reply to 93604.386
Date: 7/28/2009 5:36:13 PM
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That new rebound system needs some fixs i wish.

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93604.391 in reply to 93604.390
Date: 7/28/2009 7:39:25 PM
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I know, but 38-1 should be 7-8 levels.

There was 39 OR, 38 means a 97%.

I got 4 levels of advantage in Outside Scoring and I got 9-30 in 3 point attempts, not a 97% :D

I mean, he played 2-3 zone so 3.5 are in part for this reason. I wonder if OR and DR are affeted by Rebounding Stats or only DR.

The point I wanna reach is that... would this team take the same amount of OR playing "individual defense"?? I don´t think so, and that should be checked cause if you play 2-3 zone you have an extraordinary advantage on both sides of the court.

I say this cause after more than 1 year playing this game, today was the first time I´ve seen a crazy thing like this one. So for me something is going wrong with Rebounding distribution in the new GE.

See u

Last edited by Mr.Mac at 7/28/2009 7:41:00 PM

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93604.392 in reply to 93604.391
Date: 7/28/2009 8:58:00 PM
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88 Rebounds in a game (even with OT)...
38-1 margin ...
Skyrocketing assist numbers...

average in NBA:
assists 18-23 range per team
rebounds ...upper 30's to mid 40's per team per game.

38-1 margin can not be defended. 88-44 total...maybe..but....no.

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93604.393 in reply to 93604.357
Date: 7/28/2009 9:35:56 PM
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This is mostly true for a 2-3 zone. A 3-2 zone is designed to take away jump shots, with the wing in a good 3-2 zone rotating down to the corner. A 1-3-1 zone is mostly a trapping defense, with a major emphasis on harassing outside play and creating turnovers. But, 2-3 zone, I would agree with you.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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93604.394 in reply to 93604.393
Date: 7/29/2009 3:15:26 AM
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This is mostly true for a 2-3 zone. A 3-2 zone is designed to take away jump shots, with the wing in a good 3-2 zone rotating down to the corner. A 1-3-1 zone is mostly a trapping defense, with a major emphasis on harassing outside play and creating turnovers. But, 2-3 zone, I would agree with you.


No, it's not only 2-3 zone. Even the fastest winger cannot be so quick as to be everywhere on time and there are real good possibilities how to beat 3-2 with open jump shots based on the defending wing rotating to the corner and then there are only a few passes and open shot. In my opinion, 2-3 is even better to defending corner 3 pointers, but then there is a risk of being beaten by a fast cut & pass under the basket.

I have never played 1-3-1 zone, so I can't comment on that, but it seems you've got a point in that.

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93604.396 in reply to 93604.395
Date: 7/29/2009 5:31:51 AM
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88 Rebounds in a game (even with OT)...
38-1 margin ...
Skyrocketing assist numbers...

average in NBA:
assists 18-23 range per team
rebounds ...upper 30's to mid 40's per team per game.

38-1 margin can not be defended. 88-44 total...maybe..but....no.


How many such games out of almost 200,000 did you find on BB? And how many do you think ever happened in real basketball?

Last edited by PunkFloid at 7/29/2009 5:32:12 AM

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93604.397 in reply to 93604.376
Date: 7/29/2009 8:02:13 AM
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I thiink you are very clearly taking my quote out of context... and particularly because the bottom of that post is the caveat .. SOME OF THESE STATEMENTS MAY BE MISLEADING i find it somewhat upsetting.

Note here I was speaking very theoretically about what being a good shot blocker means in real life... and should NECCESARILY be taken to reflect the reality of the game engine. The who point of that caveat and the long winded redaction that I put up was to try to prevent people from doing from exactly what you are doing here and getting confused.

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93604.398 in reply to 93604.397
Date: 7/29/2009 8:27:49 AM
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i believed in this discussion was more post about shot blocked just affect blocked shots, and also should do it in the future because you don't like to have to skills for one propose ;) Also from your side, so we could discuss the effetiness from shot blocking on such "quotes" or not?

Or why we could discuss about shotblocking on even older post, that shot blocking was in ID RATING, which wasn't used in game(OD Rating bug with JS) and only a try to make the engine easier to understand.

If it changed, and sb now alters block i would be happy if you told us for us and in this case i change my way in judging about SB as a skill. but with the given point of information, Blocking is just for blocked shots, and we should view it like that if it still a skill which makes players weaker(potential, salary for nearly no effort) or get useful with the change.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 7/29/2009 8:31:55 AM

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93604.399 in reply to 93604.398
Date: 7/29/2009 8:40:04 AM
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The point of the discussion is that often in NBA the ability of a player in defence is measured only by blocks and steals,but they are not so good method to evaluete the defence of a player.It is true that a good shot blocker can influence some inside shot,but a good defender is a good defender also if he don't jump as a donkey to make some block,but if defend hard with body and with the brain
In a game in which the ability to block shot had to be differenced form the ability to defend,it's hard to estabilish the real weight of SB skill in the contest of the inside defence,and it is right that SB skill has less importance than the pther skill for the big mans

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