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I am quite okay with this years draft list, but the scouting could have been much better, screenshot included.



http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2844/draftd.jpg

that could be...and would surprise me.

Spending some money is always reasonable imho, unless all others are bot's ;) You can pick a decent "star" and develop good players too: not all must be at maximum potential! I am very proud of my medium potential players!

I understand your position, but I was told quite frankly (by BB-Forest, if I remember well) that the rationale of the draft is to allow teams having a low record to improve their roster, so basically you shouldn't invest in scouts if you're having a very good season.

Moreover, information provided by scouts is sketchy (what about knowing what's the height of a player? And how come I only know the age of a player if I scout it twice?) and draftees are often so unreasonable that only an unconstrained randomness could have created them (extremely tall PGs or too short Cs), and even if they have some respectable score (players describe with 4 balls, maybe with 3 or 4 balls of potential) they simply cannot even be trained to become a backup in an Italian IV serie... fired or sold for few bucks to someone that ended up firing them in a short time. I was quite lucky in season 4, 5 and 6, but it was pure luck.

I hope your experience is far better than mine, but I don't really expect anything from the draft anymore, since I have very little control of what happens. Maybe if I'm able to pass to III serie I'll throw some money into scouting, but it's just rolling the dices...

I agree that draft should allow re-balancing in medium term, as in NBA philosophy (they don't have different series however).

Scouts look like drunk... or at least blind! At the FIRST sight I would expect them to tell me if a player is tall or not!

Hope that after GE (still to be fully understood, intriguing), economy and site (very good), draft will be improved!

Quite fantastic result, congratulations. I'm thinking of putting a lot of empty rows first as every ok player (not close to 5 balls plus 5 balls but anyway..) I have is 19yo.:(((

Edit: If I was you, I'd put player 9 third or even second in the list!!

Last edited by D. Mirosavljevic at 8/26/2009 3:15:22 PM

Edit: If I was you, I'd put player 9 third or even second in the list!!

You are right, thanks for the tipp!

My draft is seemingly top heavy with guards..

All of the 5* players I've scouted are guards, save for one C, and all the 4* are guards.

Out of 23 players scouted, 11 were 4* or 5* guys. My scouts did well on a cheap budget :3

I double scouted 6 people, the best being a 4*/4* PG who is at the top of my list.. And probably another one's too.

2 others were 5*, but they had 2* potential, and the other 3 were just trash. And I mixed around the unscouted ones to see if I could get lucky :'D

Quite frankly I think the scouting feature is a waste of money.

Consider this:

If I invest 40k for 9 weeks I pay 360 for 3 players or 120k per player. If I'm a good team then my draft position is low, so I realistically don't have a shot at the top 6-8 players (given that other teams' investment level is down). This means that I'm spending 120k per marginal player.

Now think of the timing of the draft. Its post playoffs, some managers are disheartened by their team's performance, teams are getting cleaned out of the system. The market becomes flooded with a high inventory of quality personnel. Basic economic theory suggest that this is the best time to buy. Supply is higher so prices are down.

So if I instead invest only 10k, I'm getting a 90k investment, and my remaining 270k can be used to purchase 1 player at MY direction, according to my desired needs.

This has been my recent strategy, and the result for the most part has been that I am with cash during the offseason and able to pick up better players.

Of course random chance would also suggest that I'm excluding my ability to obtain the "once in a lifetime" player, but I personally feel as if I have more control this way.

i am with you, but i think i am going to have to rethink my approach. i quite surprised myself with success my first two seasons getting to Div III by my third season. then i hit a brick wall. there are teams here whose second string makes more than my starters, very good teams who beat me handily while playing TIE. those teams had THEIR tails handed to them in Div II. i can not imagine -- literally -- how good Div I must be.
my existential realization: i like the challenge, am training, adding seats for revenue, and so on. however, i realize now that my opponents -- my very capable opponents, people who understand the game at least at my level (and i think a lot of myself) are working just as hard to improve. i am chasing usain bolt. i am realizing that the only way i can make a significant jump in performance levels relative to my opponents is to capture lightning in a bottle -- how? buy a very expensive prospect or two (i don't have millions) or (maybe) get that special for much less in the draft.
right now, i still avoid the draft. next season is my final season for basically training my entire team. then i think i might start playing the draft.

Without having to go back and read the entire thread, since obviously the complaints will be the same for as long as the current draft system is in place, I'll just ask a simple question (which I ask every offseason):

Is there any hope whatsoever that the current unbelievably boring draft system will be in some way shape or form improved in the near future?

Yeah, i agreed. The draft system definitely need improvement.

If I invest 40k for 9 weeks I pay 360 for 3 players or 120k per player. If I'm a good team then my draft position is low, so I realistically don't have a shot at the top 6-8 players (given that other teams' investment level is down). This means that I'm spending 120k per marginal player.

the question is should it be necessary to all to pay 40k?

I think the maximum option is for teams in inactive leagues, with a lot of bot and some not so active human competitors.

When you are the first picking team of maybe 5-6 players, the 40k investment don't see crazy for me because you had good chanches to get a good player in round too and even chanches to get one in round 3. Last season i checked the draft of the last german IV: leagues with human partizipation. I checked ~16 of them, and i got 3 teams with 2-3 draft who are worth over 500k.

Even if i don't know if i would invest that much in this sitution, because you get pretty good informations even with a 10k investment.