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No it's not a "very good anti-tanking measure", because it effectively discourages tanking yes but it encourages teams to buy salary inefficient players. Frankly I think tanking is a big problem, but this is a poor fix that doesn't attack the root of the problem and the solution I provided, even if it may require some additional coding, is way, way better.

The question isn't why teams are not competitive. The question is why do fans continue to go watch uncompetitive games when their team refuses to use the money it has in the bank which, by the way, is there because of the fans.

And I appreciate you putting my league's lack of competitiveness into perspective, but it doesn't matter. At the end of the day I am punished for being smarter than my opponents.

Edit: In this game fans are dumb. Make them smarter and you won't have to worry about tanking.

Last edited by Thelonious at 9/19/2012 4:14:06 PM

Raising the salary floor was the simpliest way to battle against tanking. There has been many other propositions and we are still hoping for them to be implemented, but for the moment, it's not possible. We have to do with what we have.

You may have salary efficient players, but no way you would be able to be in PO in D3 (yes D3) in France.

Managers in other countries aren't dumb, they just have to face good competition, so you should be happy to still get more money than them.

What's the TV contract in French D3?

I didn't say anybody was dumb, apart from the simulated fans of this game who get taken advantage of by teams who make money and don't spend it on players because they want to relegate. And I also acknowledged that if anybody was smarter it's people in D2 of a more populated country because they had to face more competition.

Take my league for example: Is it my fault that some of them buy inefficient players, costing them lots of money, driving the TV contracts and salary floor up? Why should I be punished for that by having to adopt the same unsound strategies? I just promoted, my priority is to avoid relegation. I don't need a payroll of more than 125k to achieve that (in part because I manage enthusiasm well, game shape well and I have expensive staff). Why do I have to pay 50k penalty every week? Are they saying I should buy inefficient players instead and less expensive staff so that they get injured every once in a while? According to what dogma should I apply this failed formula in this particular context?

I don't see a staff salary floor for those who chose to save money on staff?

If this is a temporary fix, fine, but I'm afraid it's might not be. It is flawed in many ways. BTW I'm not anti-regulation in the real world, I'm not a liberal, so I'm not against this for ideological reasons. But it attacks the symptoms not the root cause, and I'm afraid it has severe side effects.

Just because you don't think the salary floor isn't effective in your specific league (which is debateable) doesn't mean that the other 99% of the leagues where it is an effective measure against tanking should be ignored. Congrats on putting a cost effective and competitive team together but it still works as it's intended in almost every instance my friend.

Just because you don't think the salary floor isn't effective in your specific league (which is debateable) doesn't mean that the other 99% of the leagues where it is an effective measure against tanking should be ignored. Congrats on putting a cost effective and competitive team together but it still works as it's intended in almost every instance my friend.

Do you think it is normal that theoretically, a team could go bankrupt because of the salary floor?

Picture a team that has such low revenues outside of TV contract that he cannot sustain a decent roster. Now that team should get relegated, but what would happen is that it will get deleted. You don't see a problem there?

Problem solved as long as you don't have the bad luck of promoting before building enough arena seats. In this case, promoting hurts you more than not promoting, which is absurd, especially when the aim is to encourage competitiveness.

If any team goes bankrupt, it's not due to the salary floor. It's due to all the money mismanagement that took place well beforehand. Theoretically.

I think you're really reaching here.