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231086.39 in reply to 231086.38
Date: 11/28/2012 6:29:48 AM
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Im not on my 2nd team with a different username to mask the ghosts of the past. Enough said.


Wow, tremell it was just a question. I've been asked plenty. Wasnt having a go at you so I dont see the reason why you should have a cheap dig at me

As I said it was because of RL stuff and I told yodabig about it before I left. Wasnt that much to mask actually, I had only been playing for a season. And the I came back and let people know who I was so I infact wasnt masking anything...

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231086.40 in reply to 231086.36
Date: 11/28/2012 6:30:14 AM
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Back when I had infinite time six seasons ago I recruited a team of about six assistants and it was gold. I had one person in charge of each age 21, 20, 19 and 18. I had one person in charge of scouting other teams. I had one person in charge of publicity and promotion. It was fantastic.

That was India which is about 1/5 - 1/10 the size of Australia. To really get things going well we would want to do something similar here. Anyone who wants can go back and look on the old forums on Bbstats and see what a great job we did way back on this about eight seasons ago. I would love to see it happen again.

As most people know my workload is crushing this year and I am stepping down from Bolivia as I just can't give it the time needed but I would also be happy to assist Australia U21 in some way maybe with a few players as my mentees.

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231086.41 in reply to 231086.40
Date: 11/28/2012 6:37:17 AM
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Ideally that's what we should be doing in both the U21 and National team but sadly not enough hands are being raised up even when the opportunity is there. For example I'm struggling to get much interest in people applying for national assistant? I was expecting a few more applicants to but doesn't seem to be happening. So this goes back to the Australian public, do you want to help out? Put your hand up as I'm sure a role is required. I still remember the Mllama days where plenty of managers were willing to help...

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231086.42 in reply to 231086.38
Date: 11/28/2012 6:38:14 AM
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I think you'll find plenty of people willing to assist. In my final season as U21 coach, I went down the path of having a large staff, I think I had 10 or so people helping. Some were active, some weren't. Ideally, I think if you could have a staff of around 5 people, each taking care of 15 or so players, that's probably what is needed to get the job done well.

Just to give an idea of the magnitude of the task for an U21 coach, you (or your staff) probably need to keep an eye on 20 players per age group - so around 80 all up. It's too much for one person to do well, unless you live on BB!

Personally, I'd be happy to take on a small role (regardless of who gets the gig), but since I'm not as active as I was, it'd probably only be taking 5 or players under my wings

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231086.43 in reply to 231086.39
Date: 11/28/2012 6:41:29 AM
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Im not on my 2nd team with a different username to mask the ghosts of the past. Enough said.


Wow, tremell it was just a question. I've been asked plenty. Wasnt having a go at you so I dont see the reason why you should have a cheap dig at me

As I said it was because of RL stuff and I told yodabig about it before I left. Wasnt that much to mask actually, I had only been playing for a season. And the I came back and let people know who I was so I infact wasnt masking anything...


Haha sorry mate dont take it too personal. But you know what my point is. I think you have made great gains in your contribution to the community as a whole since you have come back. Just seemed like a strange question to ask from someone that the wider community may not be aware of your previous history under a different name.

Last edited by tremell at 11/28/2012 6:49:55 AM

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231086.44 in reply to 231086.41
Date: 11/28/2012 6:41:51 AM
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yeah well a few of us managers have been rejected when offering help over the years so have stopped offering

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231086.45 in reply to 231086.35
Date: 11/28/2012 6:44:17 AM
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If I may say something on this topic. I agree 100% Trikster and I even complained about this issue on the offsite forum in the middle of the past season. I noticed this and said we needed to change things and get on the players real early. I'm pretty sure I mentioned it already in my campaign that if elected I would see to it that each age group gets looked after and that I continuously get updates each week ideally. I would myself right away get onto introducing myself to the young players coach and advising them on training and help set up training plans if need be. Yeah pretty sure I said something like this earlier. So yeah thats one of the big things I will put so much effort into correcting!


Are you saying you will do all the players yourself or have assistants? It reads like you are going to do it all yourself? If so, listen to everyone's wise advise and get assistants to assist ;)

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231086.46 in reply to 231086.45
Date: 11/28/2012 6:48:07 AM
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When I answered a question earlier (think it was mllamas) I said that I plan to have assistants. And yes I agree with all you guys, if elected I would try build as big of a staff as i can or need be. And also as I keep mentioning, no one will get rejected just like that. Fair go for everyone with a genuine interest in our national teams

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231086.47 in reply to 231086.43
Date: 11/28/2012 6:50:04 AM
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Fair enough, all good tremell

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231086.48 in reply to 231086.45
Date: 11/28/2012 6:55:45 AM
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This will be a lot of work, and just like our NT coach Whitebeard I plan to have permanent assistants helping me throughout my entire term if elected. Ideally I would assign them tasks for them to do each week, gather all the information I recieve and oversee the whole process. I would also have my own share of the workload. Dont worry I wont be getting my assistants to do all the work


This is what I wrote here - (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...) before anyone had mentioned assistants. So all of you can see I already had this in mind and was going to have a staff helping me out I'm just saying i was going to make sure that the staff do their jobs. With any of you veterans that join the staff, I would trust you's anyways to do the right thing

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231086.49 in reply to 231086.48
Date: 11/28/2012 7:01:30 AM
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ok, relax, was just a question :)

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