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233372.39 in reply to 233372.32
Date: 12/25/2012 1:49:02 PM
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Not sure why you built your last 1000+ bleacher seats?

The max # of seats where you can fill your arena is 19000. And if you're at 21000 the max you can fill is 20000 seats. Every seat after that just gets worse and worse. The return on investment past 21000 seats is very low. And a lot of these top teams that you're comparing yourself too have been playing this game forever so they built their arenas while people were experimenting with the best way to build them. I think if you PM'd any of the 3 guys you mentioned they would all tell you that they would build their arenas differently today.


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233372.41 in reply to 233372.40
Date: 12/25/2012 9:36:05 PM
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Personally, I'd stop building right now, spend your money to improve your roster and focus on getting yourself to D1. Once you get to D1 and after you raise you ticket prices, you'll be making a lot more money at the gate. After you establish yourself in D1 and have a excess cash would I expand your lower tier, and even then it might be a poor idea.

From: 7ton

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233372.43 in reply to 233372.37
Date: 12/26/2012 4:07:31 AM
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I have repeated in this thread many times that comparison is not easy. You should be very careful when you compare and not fall on the trap of over-generalization. Before reaching the conclusion of "building 9,45k lower tier is a bad thing", you should also consider the following:

1. World rank doesn't guarantee results. It's results that drive the demand of our arena. Toruńskie Anioły was trophyless last season and didn't win all of his league games this season. Toruńskie Anioły isn't in the best condition. You may ask crazyeye, he's got over 8k of lower tier and iirc he consistently earned over 600k.
2. Before the price update he charged 30 for lower tier and 179 for courtside. You should take that into account.
3. I am not very sure but I just think you shouldn't count the BBB games. League game is what matters.

Last edited by 7ton at 12/26/2012 4:48:05 AM

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233372.44 in reply to 233372.12
Date: 12/26/2012 10:55:01 AM
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I'm bringing in an average of $630+....I want to see if I can pull in $650k with a regular season game....anyone seen this? I think we need to talk about the total $$$ earned if we are gonna talk about optimizing arena....

Also it seems unkown what kind of help/impact the PR staff has...I'm wondering if I raised up prices and staffed a L7 PR would $650be possible....lots of unknowns...maybe next season I'll go after that $650 mark...but surely someone somewhere has already broke it, no?



sorry wolph but ur arena isnt balanced very well..u only make that muxh money cause u have the championsshipboost in ur back and u r playing in one of the worst first divisions in bb

in a fighting league with more than one good team ur income would be around 500k

btw: after my championsship i broke the 650k barrier twice and pr dudes helping much

cheers

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233372.45 in reply to 233372.37
Date: 12/26/2012 11:24:56 AM
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The current top 3 of the world all have 18k bleachers. The nr. 1 of the world (Harley Davidson) only has 2k in lower tier and sells them at $70 a seat. The nr. 2 (Toruńskie Anioły) sold 9,45k in lower tier for $29 a seat. The nr. 1 also sells 20 VIP boxes at $1600 a seat. Now who is making more money? Nr. 1 had his best day earning $616.800 and nr. 2 made $611.136 at best with a much larger arena. Lesson to be learned: "building 9,45k lower tier is a bad thing".


u r not the best student isnt it? ur solution is totally wrong :D

the polish team has no winning streak and no champions boost and making over 600k!! thats pretty pretty good and i bet he his number one in the bb world with that income

like i wrote to wolph..streak and promotion/ championsship bonus is worth round abount 100k alone ;)

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233372.46 in reply to 233372.44
Date: 12/26/2012 1:52:54 PM
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First of all, I'd like to say you are my idol as far as building an arena goes. Furthermore, I'd like to ask you what you think about the fact that, despite having a price of 20 at bleachers, miagi still doesn't even come close to 10K lower tier, not even 5000. If it is so, isn't his assumpsion that reducing lower tier prices will only hurt him, spot on? I mean, the outcome of losing both money on existing lower tier and losing bleacher attantance, don't you think that can hurt him more than help him?

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233372.49 in reply to 233372.48
Date: 12/27/2012 3:21:45 AM
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u r totally right..for a team like urs, a high level pr isnt that important, cause ur fan survey should be always 5...

i dont say ur pricing isnt smart..like u said, and i believe u, ur team is one of the best in making money..but, u r flying first class with ur winning streak and bonuses..making high income without that is the hard task in bb

bleachers: 20 / lower tier :34/35. --- prices after my championship

cheerio

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