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I'm fine with BB. I have absolutely no issues with what he's doing. I'd *like* him to come up with some innovation... but if he does - he'll probably have my vote.

@ Malice back off & just stay out of this one.

@ BBKing By your own admission our team is weak, it lacks players of the top standard. So how can the player who has the 10th top salary in Nippon, who is one of only 2 in the top 10 under 25 & 1 of only 3 under 28, who is 1 of only 2-3 in the top 10 still being trained not be on the team? He has virtually identical skills to the starting PG but is getting better every week. Besides just punishing a manager you don't like please explain. While you are at it maybe explain how you also leave off the #9 on the list as well who was frequently the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team the last few seasons.

@ everyone The GM has said there is nothing we can do about this sabotage of our team. We could get a 10 year old to just put the 18 top salaries on the roster. Select the top 12 DMis each week, play a blank/LI/M2M on normal each week & it would be much much better. Some people think he is doing a good job, how?

@ BBKing Sure you want to punish Wolph & me but why do you hate all of Nippon? Why do you want to bring the entire team down?

@ Malice back off & just stay out of this one.

Thanks chief, but I'll choose where & when I comment. You raise some valid points, but here's an idea: do it via BBmail.
Doing it ad infinitum on a public forum merely comes across as overtly aggressive towards the NT manager... which, I guess is an accurate appraisal of what you are towards him.

@ everyone The GM has said there is nothing we can do about this sabotage of our team. We could get a 10 year old to just put the 18 top salaries on the roster. Select the top 12 DMis each week, play a blank/LI/M2M on normal each week & it would be much much better. Some people think he is doing a good job, how?

You've asked for a please explain, so I'll do the same: beyond being focused on your players, how is the NT being sabotaged?

I'll answer your question with a question: in relation to other seasons, how well did the NT perform?

@ BBKing Sure you want to punish Wolph & me but why do you hate all of Nippon? Why do you want to bring the entire team down?

Dude... that comes across as incredibly self-absorbed.

You've got one helluva nerve.

OF COURSE Stunners has been quiet about Oishi's benching! He's probably dealing with it like an adult, asking BB King directly rather than making a huge song and dance out of it.
Another thing you might note is that the top 3 players re. minutes aren't even Japanese-owned. So much for *that* theory.

On a personal level:
Matsumoto didn't get even selected to play for about 3 weeks running. Did I bitch/moan/whine/stamp-my-feet about it like a spoilt brat?
Nuh-uh. I quietly and calmly sent the manager a message inquiring as to what was going on - we had a short dialogue and I fixed the problem.

The *cough-cough* "issues" that existed between thee and me were there far before BB King joined Japan in any capacity.

You know what IS funny tho'? How very easily he pushes your buttons.

So how can the player who has the 10th top salary in Nippon, who is one of only 2 in the top 10 under 25 & 1 of only 3 under 28, who is 1 of only 2-3 in the top 10 still being trained not be on the team?

So many stats and at first moment I wasn't sure who is he ;-)
Okey, quick review and I know. He is Kawagichi. Yea, now I know that it was easy to predict, I shouldn't think about players in other clubs than Yours.
He didn't play in previous season because I received NT without empty slots.
He was one of the candidate to play in this week vs Canada, it was my last dilemma - Kawagichi or Honda. They are very similar. However Honda has better DMI (in previous season You were big fan of DMI). I adjudged that Honda is better choise in this match. This match was very important for us, so my goal was to select the best players, not youngest.
I think Kawagichi has big chance to play in this season and I will be suprised if it doesn't happen.
However he isn't perfect player, he is close to cap. He shouldn't train outside skills in next few season because then his very young age will be worthless. And therefore I assume his outside skill will be the same in near future.
And please note that Kawagichi played in previous week in scrimmage. In thas match I used as many young player as possible. In this week I had to use the best players.
However he played few days ago. So BANG!!!!!!!!!!!! Something is wrong in Your theory.

And one more thing. You aren't objective in discuss about Your players. In one of Your previous posts You wrote very sarcastic that You know big man with OD better by 5 than Hayakawa. It isn't hard to guess that he is of course Your player. So why didn't You add that his ID is worse by 5 than Hayakawa? I can't call Your player only because one of his skills is better than skill of player in NT. I must compare all skills and so bad ID for big man is unacceptable. If I call this player it will be realy sabotage.

Last edited by B.B.King at 12/6/2012 5:35:16 PM

We had, all in our way, come to understand and work along with Shogun as well...As a former U21 coach I know all too well how Shogun bandstands his players and he can go to the extreme, but we all work pretty well wtih him I think.

We should consider that Shogun is a relatively successful manager for the age of his team. Can you name anyone who has won a cup with a team as Japanese as his? If he is so wrong about his players, then why did he smack everyone up so bad with them last season hmmm????

I don't even agree with his evaluations half the time but you got to give him some credit. Japanese players are overpriced and limited in selection, yet he picked (and trained) a winning squad. That says A LOT.

I think arguing and bandstandings in the forums is one thing, but when a guy WINS with his crew, that is worth a million words. Proof is in the pudding, Shogun deserves some credit and consideration, its not all hot air.

I don't think you have the right to point at Shogun for "bandstanding". He's no worse than you.

And I consider him to be an EXTREMELY successful manager - no "relatively" about it! Matter of fact, in some ways I consider him to be more successful than you, or others - given how long he's been in the JBBL, and the fact that his team is made up of almost entirely Japanese players. I'm envious!
That said, I think he is far too focused on his players in the NT, rather than the NT itself. This isn't news to him (I've even discussed it with him via BBmail).

It looks like there are more pirates than only me ;-)
One of them bought this player: (27821776) and only goal was to retire him without playing even in single match ;-)
Great example of sportsmanship ;-)