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381.392 in reply to 381.391
Date: 2/26/2008 10:53:58 AM
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If you train a guy maximum in one (1) skill, then start with the next skill train it max.
then the next then the next... it sounds like the gap between the lagging skill(s) is so high it would make the trainging very fast.

but i doubt that the BB-* wanted that to be the perfect training...

optimal training is maybe (in my mind):

player A

JS resp
JR resp
OD resp

he trains one week JS, one week OD and one week JR (if you could train them that way)
combinated pops must be the optimal training.

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381.393 in reply to 381.387
Date: 2/26/2008 1:36:58 PM
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what, you two with the 1-2 week pops? so you've had actual back-to-back pops in the same skill?

Yes, but all last season:
28-Dec-2007, 19yo American to strong RB (8736.46)
04-Jan-2008, 19yo American to proficient RB
04-Jan-2008, 20yo American to strong RB and respectable IS (8736.56)
11-Jan-2008, 20yo American to proficient RB (8736.80)
18-Jan-2008, 19yo American to prominent RB (8736.94)
25-Jan-2008, 19yo American to prolific RB
25 Jan-2008, 20yo American to prominent RB (8736.110)

What I did note when going back through this data, however, was that the 1-2 week pops didn't start coming until I had trained the same skill for greater than 4 weeks. You can see my exact training results for 8 weeks here: (381.299)

Also, oddly enough, the one-week pops came at the strong-proficient on both players (and also between prominent and prolific on the younger kid)

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381.394 in reply to 381.390
Date: 2/26/2008 2:03:01 PM
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but if you have had 3 high skills ins sht, ins def, shot blk.....the RB would have promoted faster.

your test is very nice, and right! but i mean that it would have been little different if the other skills would have been higher than RB when you started.

Hopefully I'll actually be able to test this theory in the next season or so (though not with RB, likely with SB).

The only thing that may stop me from being able to do this would be the wages of my trainees getting too high. If I'm still in division III next season, I seriously doubt my ability to afford my current crop of trainees.

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381.395 in reply to 381.394
Date: 2/26/2008 7:50:08 PM
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but if you have had 3 high skills ins sht, ins def, shot blk.....the RB would have promoted faster.


Surely the only reason this appears so is that the likely sub level of RB is higher due to the secondary training received whilst training the other 3 skills? (Didnt check they all train RB but I know SB does....)


ha - still havent figured out how to use the quote button correctly!

EDIT: This better?


Last edited by Edju at 2/26/2008 9:04:14 PM

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381.397 in reply to 381.396
Date: 2/29/2008 10:43:22 AM
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This is probably going to be a stuuupid question but is jump shot the best/only way to train jump range?

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381.400 in reply to 381.399
Date: 2/29/2008 11:32:27 AM
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would not be to stupid if you check the first post in this thread or ask questions in the helpforum ;)
ok i help you a bit: (381.1)
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Yes, and even after he checks it, he will still be right.

JS appears to be listed in the primary training slot for the Outside Shooting training, which I think is incorrect. My understanding is that OS trains primarily Jump Range.


Yeah that's why i asked such a stupid question, that just put me under the impression it trained the same as jump shot. Anyone got any ideas of training speeds or would i be correct to assume it's the same as Jump shot but JS and JR reversed?

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381.402 in reply to 381.401
Date: 2/29/2008 11:54:58 AM
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Some observations from a friend who trains guards makes it appear so. He's had more JR pops with OS training, though of course the data is not conclusive and there aren't training times available. I think it would be pretty safe to assume that there won't be two trainings that are (nearly) identical.


I'm going to give OS a go with my wingmen and see what happens I'll keep a record of what happens and post here over the rest of the season, I'm probably going to train one of my point guards in the SF position too.

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