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100172.4 in reply to 100172.2
Date: 7/5/2009 12:11:17 PM
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Firstly, the transfer estimate is just that, an estimate. There is no hard value for any player in this game. Secondly, if you are going to bid "whatever it takes to get him end of story" then you will occasionally overpay his TE but you will be changing his next TE to more accurately reflect what you were willing to pay for him.

The reasons for extending the deadline are probably several but one I can think of is different computer response times. A manager shouldn't be limited because he lives in remote rural Arkansas and is using a Texas Instruments computer and a 56k dial-up modem.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 7/5/2009 12:13:51 PM

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100172.5 in reply to 100172.1
Date: 7/5/2009 3:18:27 PM
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I´m totally agree with you. Trade deadline shouldn´t have extended time.
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100172.6 in reply to 100172.1
Date: 7/5/2009 3:48:09 PM
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I agree. I also think that there should be an option to offer money for a player without any bids. The bids are not good at all.

The option to offer money for some player should be taken serious by the GM's of the game.

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100172.8 in reply to 100172.1
Date: 7/5/2009 5:42:41 PM
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if you bid in time the price you like to spend, you will often get your player - if not any other person thing he is more worth then that but normally such a behaviour kill bidding wars pretty fast before they appear.

So you are worried, that player are traded above the TPE - without the extension of the deadline i am worried about selling players below their market value. If you choose a to low minimum bid, and your intrest are "schnäppchenjäger"(a german word for person who like to buy cheap), they will wait till the clock run down and try to overbid in the last second and probadly not the sum this player is worth for then i beleive they will bid a sum who is maybe 1-4 steps over the actual bid because they only had to be the highest bidder at the end. i believe this willonly work with bid agents in the ebay style, but for me the bidding wars are also fun.

@KingKock: the gm running this game in their spare time, and that will be just uneccessary work for them. And only a free market guarantees, are normal price development and buissness which is to good for the buyers.

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100172.9 in reply to 100172.7
Date: 7/5/2009 7:40:53 PM
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not real money. i mean bb money lol.

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100172.10 in reply to 100172.9
Date: 7/6/2009 9:50:06 AM
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i think it would be good if they could set it up like a real trade agreement, where if 1 club has some1 for sale another club could offer like one of there players and some cash or at the end of the season the lower clubs could offer there trade pick and stuff like that.

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100172.11 in reply to 100172.10
Date: 7/6/2009 10:13:55 AM
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i think it would be good if they could set it up like a real trade agreement,


There is actually nothing stopping you from "trading" players at the moment, you just have to use the transfer market and make sure all the "traded" players sell for market value.

Someone offered me a trade last week, for example. The problem I see with trades of this kind is that someone usually loses. That's why I turned him down. With the transfer market you are more likely to get a fair price, sometimes you just need to be patient.


where if 1 club has some1 for sale another club could offer like one of there players and some cash or at the end of the season the lower clubs could offer there trade pick and stuff like that.


The type of system you want would make cheating too easy. Seriously, the transfer market may not be perfect but in my mind it is the perfect solution to an imperfect world.

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100172.12 in reply to 100172.4
Date: 7/6/2009 10:37:32 AM
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I could see the point about the dial-up thing. I just feel that a deadline should be a deadline is all.

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100172.13 in reply to 100172.12
Date: 7/6/2009 10:40:08 AM
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I could see the point about the dial-up thing. I just feel that a deadline should be a deadline is all.

The system is not designed to reward whoever is lucky to press the button last, it's designed to reward whoever is willing to pay the highest price.

I don't see what this has to do with cheating using the transfer market.

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From: ray461

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100172.14 in reply to 100172.8
Date: 7/6/2009 10:52:22 AM
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I'm not really worried about the players being above TE. It's the fact that the system gives you a warning about over pricing your players when selling them. But with the bidding system that doesn't have a 'set' deadline, that in itself allows overpricing to happen.

ex. I'm bidding on Joe Schmoe and the deadline is set for 6:00:00 a.m. July 6, 2009

I have the high bid of $10,000 at 5:59:55 on July 6, 2009. Also just for fun let's say the TE has been estimated for this player at $2,000-$10,000. So currently I have bid to the 'estimated' TE on him, whiich is fine. But at the last second another owner comes and places a bid on Joe Schmoe for $11,000. Placing that bid just added 3 min to the clock. So this other owner and myself go back and forth for another several bids and 30 more minutes. The final bid ends up being $30,000.

So the player is won above market value. Ok I'm fine with the overpaying thing. As I stated in my original post, if I want a player I'm going to get him. But I also feel that the deadline should stop when it says it's supposed to stop. If it were more like E-bay I'd be happy. I don't mind losing a player to another owner "IF" we both know when the deadline is and it does not extend past that. Last second bids are part of the game.

Last edited by ray461 at 7/6/2009 10:54:40 AM

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