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134991.4 in reply to 134991.3
Date: 3/16/2010 6:51:55 PM
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No position gets trained faster than any other. It is all dependant on the skill that you are training. Other factors such as height etc are obviously going to affect the rate at which pop ups occur. If you have a look at the Training Speed Analysis thread, that will give you an idea of how long each skill takes to pop. So in that sense you could add up the time for 1 pop on each of the main skills for a center and compare that to the time for 1 pop on each of the main skills for a shooting guard and compare. I think that's what you are asking...

I would say 10 pops for a Center or PF in inside skills is good for a season. For a guard I would say 13-15 is good for a season in their outside skills. Obviously a large portion of those 15 pops might be due to one-on-one training.

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134991.5 in reply to 134991.4
Date: 3/16/2010 7:07:54 PM
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13-15 pops is alot more then 10 pops.

so it would seem gaurds get more pops a season then forwards which is sort of what i was asking lol

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134991.6 in reply to 134991.5
Date: 3/16/2010 7:22:56 PM
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Well not exactly. If you had a center with good inside skills already and wanted to train secondaries, you could probably get 13 pops because training one-on-one gets you a lot of pops. But for a guard, if you spend time training Jump Range, it takes a long time to pop, so you won't get many pops in a season.

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134991.7 in reply to 134991.6
Date: 3/16/2010 9:41:41 PM
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Not really. If your C is very tall then trying to train your secondaries could take a very long time and it is not likel you will get 13 pops from one on one training

Last edited by Monkeybiz at 3/16/2010 9:42:16 PM

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134991.8 in reply to 134991.7
Date: 3/17/2010 2:12:46 AM
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There was a guy in another thread who claimed his guy had 6 pops in 8 weeks in OD but normally skills like that take 2-3 weeks per pop. Some skills like driving and handling go up together very fast so you could expect one of these to pop almost every week if you are training things like handling and 1 on 1.

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134991.9 in reply to 134991.8
Date: 3/17/2010 4:03:22 AM
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That may be true if you have a lvl 5 trainer doing 1 position training focusing on pressure and with a 18 year old short trainee.

What I am saying is that don't expect these pops to go up as quickly if you are trying to do these training on a 7'0 C as height will slow his training down quite significantly

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134991.10 in reply to 134991.9
Date: 3/17/2010 4:21:16 AM
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I definitely agree that height would slow you down, but the point I was trying to illustrate is that if you ignore height, a center can be trained in guard skills and receive just as many pops as a guard. So it's not really that guard skills train faster, its more than One-on-one pops really quickly which is a guard skill and so it might seem like guards get more pops, but a center would get a good number of pops if they trained one-on-one as well for a while.

I definitely think you can get 13 pops at least with an 18 year old trainee and just a level 4 trainer. As long as the height is decent, one-on-one training is surprisingly quick at training driving and handling, and it trains multiple other things as well. If you had some high sublevels you could very easily do it.

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134991.11 in reply to 134991.9
Date: 3/17/2010 4:21:18 AM
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I definitely agree that height would slow you down, but the point I was trying to illustrate is that if you ignore height, a center can be trained in guard skills and receive just as many pops as a guard. So it's not really that guard skills train faster, its more than One-on-one pops really quickly which is a guard skill and so it might seem like guards get more pops, but a center would get a good number of pops if they trained one-on-one as well for a while.

I definitely think you can get 13 pops at least with an 18 year old trainee and just a level 4 trainer. As long as the height is decent, one-on-one training is surprisingly quick at training driving and handling, and it trains multiple other things as well. If you had some high sublevels you could very easily do it.

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134991.12 in reply to 134991.1
Date: 3/17/2010 8:59:59 AM
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it might jsut be me, but you Aussies seem very active on the fora out here :D

first off, have you read the training speed analysis thread? (78242.1) this shoudl provide you with alot of information that is needed.

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it depends on your lvl trainer, ammount of numbers you get on that position, etc... but if you go Monopost ( 1 positiong training, lvl 5) then you'll find the answers in the Speed analyse training thread.

3) redefine that quesiton please. do you mean the ammount of pops per week? if so, then that would be to have the main pop and all teh side pops mentioned in the training speed analyse thread. if not, please redefine, cause i don't really understand the question.

Rev

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134991.13 in reply to 134991.12
Date: 3/17/2010 9:08:25 AM
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yes ive read the training thread extensively , ive even made my own program which calculates pops and updates players stat lines via to what training you chose.

i know that i will find the answers in the training thread, im interested in other peoples views of what the average amount and max amount of pops are per season.

some players will say 9 pops others 11, im just interested in seeing whats more common.

question 3, whats the max amount of pops per season for 1 player, meaning how many pops can one player get in one season not including stamina or free throws.


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134991.14 in reply to 134991.13
Date: 3/17/2010 10:40:35 AM
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Well that last question is very hard to answer lol. If I had really really really high sublevels on every single skill, and I trained a different thing every week (So start with Pressure the first week, and work your way down the possible training options list), then I think you can easily get about 25 pops in a season. 25 pops in a season means less than 2 pops a week average. I think this would be very easy to do given high sublevels.

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