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172620.4 in reply to 172620.3
Date: 1/27/2011 6:49:42 PM
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You are probably the most extreme example in the entire BB world. You have been playing since season 2 (an awesome achievement in itself - I am sure much less than 1% of teams have) have kept those wonderful Allstar* players as well as having drafted a ton of trainable players in the more recent years. Some teams are lucky - I am - and draft good rookies all the time, while others seem to get rubbish all the time. One of the guys in my league has been looking for a draft pick to train forever, last season after investing $20,000 a week for the entire season he got 2 benchwarmers and a role player. This season he got a $3,000 star, his best draft pick ever!

What about a 1st division team?


Find me a first division team that has 9 of its draft picks playing for it and I'll admit there is a problem.

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172620.5 in reply to 172620.4
Date: 1/27/2011 7:14:00 PM
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You are probably the most extreme example in the entire BB world. You have been playing since season 2 (an awesome achievement in itself - I am sure much less than 1% of teams have) have kept those wonderful Allstar* players as well as having drafted a ton of trainable players in the more recent years. Some teams are lucky - I am - and draft good rookies all the time, while others seem to get rubbish all the time. One of the guys in my league has been looking for a draft pick to train forever, last season after investing $20,000 a week for the entire season he got 2 benchwarmers and a role player. This season he got a $3,000 star, his best draft pick ever!

This really isn't about the quality of the draft picks at all. (I haven't drafted a decent 18yo in a long long time.) It's about draftees somehow getting a discount for being trained, whereas no discount would exist for bought players. There is already an incentive in place to train draft picks, it's called merchandise.

What about a 1st division team?


Find me a first division team that has 9 of its draft picks playing for it and I'll admit there is a problem.

What if it was only 2? What if they were both NT centers? Should the discount still apply?

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172620.6 in reply to 172620.5
Date: 1/27/2011 10:54:19 PM
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Yes I think that if it is our draftee, his salare should be lower even as a NT player

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Date: 1/28/2011 1:50:52 AM
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What if it was only 2? What if they were both NT centers? Should the discount still apply?


I say yes, but don't forget that in my system you only get a discount if their salary this season is higher than last season, so if their salary in season 15 is $300,000 and in season 14 it was $300,000 they get a massive discount of...nothing.

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172620.8 in reply to 172620.7
Date: 1/28/2011 5:53:32 AM
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I believe that's why they implemented a merchandising bonus for having homegrown players, it's not a direct discount as your suggestion, but it helps your payroll anyway.

I was also almost forgetting about the fan survey, in which there's a "I'm familiar with the players" thing which increases your tickets income as well.

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172620.9 in reply to 172620.6
Date: 1/28/2011 8:44:13 AM
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Yes I think that if it is our draftee, his salare should be lower even as a NT player

I'm guessing you're not aware of the merchandising kickbacks associated with owning a NT player you drafted. They're pretty retarded, and more than helpful in maintaining the salary of such a player.

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Date: 1/28/2011 8:49:25 AM
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What if it was only 2? What if they were both NT centers? Should the discount still apply?


I say yes, but don't forget that in my system you only get a discount if their salary this season is higher than last season, so if their salary in season 15 is $300,000 and in season 14 it was $300,000 they get a massive discount of...nothing.

You've conveniently forgotten in your system that salaries are adjusted every off-season against those of the highest-skilled players in the game. It's quite possible to train a player and have his salary decrease (i.e., training a, say, 26yo 300k center from atrocious OD to inept OD).

Another issue that occurs to me (and perhaps I'm not understanding your meaning perfectly here) is that this player got a discount in season 14. If he has the same salary in season 15, and you remove the discount, suddenly he costs more in season 15 than he did in season 14 as a penalty for not increasing his salary, which (excuse me for saying so) is freaking ludicrous.

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172620.11 in reply to 172620.9
Date: 1/28/2011 8:53:00 AM
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Yes but now you are talking about such a tiny minority of teams. There are how many teams in the USA? 3,500? And I imagine less than 12 actually have a player on the senior national team. I doubt all 12 actually drafted the guy. I know a player who has his own draft pick in the Australian senior team and he gets crazy merchandising. So yes there is already a huge bonus for those lucky few teams but I am a little more concerned with helping the other 3,500.

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172620.12 in reply to 172620.11
Date: 1/28/2011 8:58:49 AM
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Yes but now you are talking about such a tiny minority of teams. There are how many teams in the USA? 3,500? And I imagine less than 12 actually have a player on the senior national team. I doubt all 12 actually drafted the guy. I know a player who has his own draft pick in the Australian senior team and he gets crazy merchandising. So yes there is already a huge bonus for those lucky few teams but I am a little more concerned with helping the other 3,500.

You don't think this would change how people play the game? You think I have kept 9 of my own draftees because they're awesome players?

Nope, and I only plan to train them for the merch kickbacks. If you want a discount for training the players you drafted, then train the players you drafted. The mechanics are already in place, we're not exactly curing cancer here.

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172620.13 in reply to 172620.1
Date: 1/29/2011 7:50:00 AM
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There is already an incentive in place to train draft picks, it's called merchandise.


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172620.14 in reply to 172620.13
Date: 1/30/2011 6:11:09 PM
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Really? My best player, my SG is from my original startup team and I have two draft picks I am training, one is my PG and the other is my SF some day in the future, and yet my merchandising is WAY below the league average.

Great incentive.

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