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190144.4 in reply to 190144.3
Date: 7/21/2011 10:34:21 PM
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First things first, pay no attention to the player's position listed in the top right corner. Those are only suggested. I'm only saying this because it looks like you kept 1 of each +1 other.

Second, Lucey is only 19 and has pretty good potential to begin with, but your three guards are good fillers until you find their replacements. Your PG is getting up there in age though so you might need to find sooner than you would like to.

Without knowing what your roster actually looks like, Herman (PF) and Lucey appear to be your only solid trainees to begin with.

Decide what direction you want to go as a team on the court. Worry about building up your stadium, get 1 good player (don't spend a lot, just one that will be good enough to win you more than a few games. A good scorer, either inside or outside will put pressure on the opposing defense but keep in mind to build your defense, otherwise, the effort of that scorer will be fruitless.

Alright, quick summary: build your stadium because one you move to League IV, you'll want to benefit from the extra income. I have not looked at your ticket prices, but start comparing what you are listing the tickets at with those owners of successful clubs in the same division. When you feel like your team will be moving up to IV, start doing your analysis clubs in IV so you can prepare to raise your prices. Lower ticket prices combined with winning more than a few ball games will cause your fan rating to go up and in turn, expect your revenue to increase. Shop around for a good, young scorer, maybe between ages 28-32 as they can be cheaper and could come with a good amount of experience which, believe it or not, might possibly be the x-factor in a lot of your games. If that doesn't sound beneficial, search for a young trainee to pair with Lucey and start doing 1-position training. If you can find a young trainee with good potential (does not have to be better than Starter or All-Star), you can build two or three good players out of Herman, Lucey, and this young trainee which will help propel your team to IV.

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190144.5 in reply to 190144.4
Date: 7/21/2011 11:16:45 PM
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Woah man, thx for the awesome post!


First of all, I didn't know that those any only suggestions :D . The entire season I've thought that the players are only good in the positions that they're listed for. Well that explains a lot. I am getting a new PG, I'm pretty sure I'll get it from the upcoming draft. I'll be the 6th to pick, and 4 of the 6 teams were made during the end of last month. So they can't have a lot of info of the players.

The PG I'm trying to get is supposed to be a good player, 18y/old , 5* and 5potential. I heard from someone that those don't really mean a lot, but we'll see. 5 more days, can't wait! I'll hopefully also be getting a PF and and a SG.

Well, to be honest, I've only trained the PF and SF the entire season. When I didn't know anything about the game, I just trained the whole team for like 3 weeks. Wasn't a good idea. Wasted a few level-ups during that 3 week =(

If I will get the PG, I don't know how I'll train PG + SF/PF. I really would like to train my SF+PF too. Don't want them to fade away. I've no idea how to train those 3 positions @ the same time. Maybe do SF+PF every 2nd week and PG every 2nd?

I just used around 270k to make my stadium a bit bigger, it'll be around 5950 after. I bought 5 VIP too , just for fun. I just found out that if I will keep the original ticket prices, it'll take 20 home games to break even. So that's like 2 seasons -.- . I'll have to re-think the price of the tickets after the draft. I've only sold-out once, and that was the final game of the season, the third qualify game. I guess Tmuston Beltic's fans are glory hunters.. They only come to the games if I'm on a winning streak :(. True fans, yea right!!

I'll most likely have to buy a C. I was looking for C's , I can't get a decent C for less than 500k. I have to think about that too after the draft. What I've found really annoying is that it's really hard to buy a player. There is always someone offering higher than you are.

Sorry for my long post :D



From: Orko27

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190144.6 in reply to 190144.5
Date: 7/22/2011 12:10:43 AM
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Don't alternate between training the PG and the SF/PF. Choose a position type to train and stick with it for a while.

The good news is that SFs and, to a lesser extent, PFs can benefit from a lot of the same training as a PG. The SF and PG both need quite a bit of Outside D, and it's very helpful for a PF to be at least decent there. Passing and Jump shot helps everybody. I'd focus on those three (in that order - OD, PA, JS) for now. Maybe add in some One on One after a while.

But, unless you want to turn your PF into a SF, you might be better served selling him and picking up a free agent big man with good defense and rebounding and maybe a third trainee to go with your SF and PG draftee.

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190144.7 in reply to 190144.5
Date: 7/22/2011 5:42:48 AM
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I'll most likely have to buy a C. I was looking for C's , I can't get a decent C for less than 500k.


You don't need a C for 500k, that's way too much for your team to handle. A C for 500k nowadays have 40k salary. Try to stick to the rule to build a team that's slightly better than others (if you want to promote, that is). If you build a team what will wipe out entire competition, this mean you have a team too strong for your league and you are paying unecessary costs for salaries.

A C of 15-20k salary and around 300-400k price should be more than enough for your team. If you will look after such C's with age 22 or 23, I bet you won't find any under 500k. But if you are trying to buy an older one (27+), than you will get a good price. Just don't buy players that are too old (32+).

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190144.8 in reply to 190144.5
Date: 7/22/2011 5:03:31 PM
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Don't worry about it too much. I jumped in halfway during Season 4, visited the playoffs, got 2 of 3 really good players that happened to have been cornerstones for my team in the future. I went undefeated during Season 5 with really only three good players (2 from draft, 1 from my initial roster) and advanced to League III. HOWEVER, like you, I was a newb but my biggest mistake was that during all of Season 5, I trained Game Shape. I then spent the next 9 seasons up in League III with playoff visits 8 of 9 and either 1 or 2 Finals visits (I remember 1, but there might've been a 2nd). I only recently dropped to IV because of a bad season and thus, I had to sell off some of those really good players that were gonna drain me while in IV.

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190144.9 in reply to 190144.8
Date: 7/22/2011 6:45:21 PM
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ur doin it wrong.

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190144.10 in reply to 190144.9
Date: 7/22/2011 8:49:15 PM
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Thanks for the insightfully informative post! Care to elaborate or were you really trying to respond to the OP?

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190144.11 in reply to 190144.10
Date: 7/23/2011 7:20:20 AM
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I wonder what's the problem with ur team. Even though u started ages ago and spent a lot of time in D.III. u still dropped. What caused that? It must be the money, but lookin at your transfer history, ur in +. How much r your staff salaries and their level?

I'm just wondering cuz u gave good advice to the OP.

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190144.12 in reply to 190144.3
Date: 7/23/2011 11:54:09 AM
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Get a couple (2-3) 18 YO trainees with at least 6 potential at the start of next season... they should be cheap then. Then Single position train them. Good ones should be around 100-150k each. If you single position train them correctly for a 2-3 seasons, you could have 30k salary players. I would try to survive one more season in IV. I was in the same position a couple years ago when i promoted to IV. In that same season I Drafted my PG Carlson (his salary was only 3800), and now his salary will be over 40k next season. you could do the same.

Invest another 100-150k in your arena. It will help you get money a LOT.

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190144.13 in reply to 190144.11
Date: 7/23/2011 12:01:12 PM
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The league I was in was extremely tough. I survived long enough but eventually my team was too one dimensional. I had one player, Vernon Partridge, that I built to be one hell of a defending center but he had to no jump shot so his Inside Scoring took a hit even though he had a high IS skill rating. He was primarily used to defend the paint and give us second chance opportunities, too one dimensional for a player that was scheduled to cost to $70k+ the next season. My last season in III, I took one last gamble and went after another post player to compliment Partridge. Francisco Candia was awesome but his salary combined with Partridge's, I had no balance on my roster. Too much of my player salary was being eaten up by these two monsters, leaving me know room to grow. So that last season turned out to be a bad season because the teams surrounding me were more balanced in their attacks. They were able to attack me from the perimeter because my first two draftees, Lowell Webber and Clinton Cantrell, were my best perimeter defenders and they were crap that season compared to the shooters they were defending.

So, long story short, I ruined Cantrell & Webber by failing to take the time to train their skills in Season 5, instead focusing on Game Shape (I was a noob). Season 8 rolls around, I pick up Partridge from one of the teams in my league that drafted him, turned him into a 1-dimensional monster, spent my money on some bad investments, gave one last run at making the playoffs, and when that didn't happen, I sold them off to prepare for the rebuilding process.

Basically, I've learned a few things along the way and I've taken a whole new approach. My goal is to lose this affinity with my players and learn to cut the cord rather than staying attached to them. Clinton Cantrell was sold too late in his career, making me far less than what he might've given me earlier. Lowell Webber is older now but he might sell easier despite possibly making me more when he was younger. Vernon Partridge should have been sold long before I did when his price was high but I waited, and because of that, I lost out on a lot of potential earnings. I learned people don't really care for 1-dimensional. I may give good advice, but that advice I gave comes from the teachings of many others over the seasons.