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215616.4 in reply to 215616.3
Date: 5/4/2012 12:19:21 AM
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yes i think at the start of the season it was touted as being tough and competitive, which, at the time, was true.

But obviously with the fade away of teams, and, (not neccassarily this division) the tactic of "ill just finish 4th/5th/6th and save $$$... even to the point of 'ill just demote this season, then come back bigger and in 2 seasons time'...those kind of long term tactics can make it very difficult to measure this league and competitiveness etc.

but this is the nature of the game now i believe.




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215616.5 in reply to 215616.1
Date: 5/4/2012 4:24:13 AM
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Great write up and it is excellent to have such great minds as you and Rad Ranga joining the ranks of my old division II which I think already had a ton of very smart managers (I wont mention them for fear of missing one).

Rebounding is big. My C Jared Sherwin has it as his highest stat and my PF Gary Lawrance has it as his second highest. It is great but it is always expensive.
Crunch Time is a very important weapon especially later in the season when you have a match against a key rival who you are fighting for a position. It becomes less painful these days when there always seems to be a tanker or two so you can recover your enthusiasm easily.
Arena prices is the biggest black science in this game.
Point Guards are means to pass, but Lordy has certainly done some unusual things with his over the years.
OD - is probably one of the three big keys to the game, even with so much LI offence the number of the outside shots you take that are made into misses can be critical. Even better when few guards have good JR.
Steals are hard to get when most teams have great passing and handling. The WORST PA or HA on any player on my entire team (besides 1k scrimmage scrubs and one backup big man who had one stat inept) was average.
Staff are boring but need to be correct for your team. I pay a lot for mine but I want good training and don't want $100k players out injured.
Value - my second best player is on a $56,000 salary, my 3rd best $37,000. This season my best starting lineup was 37, 63, 56, 136 and 62 yet I went 20-2 (should have been 21-1 but didn't take the last game seriously enough). It can just take a long time to find value. I spent about a month tracking a ton of players before I finally bought Sperbert.

Overall great work and you have done really well, but don't underestimate your opponents in this division there are a lot of very clever managers here.

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Date: 5/4/2012 9:08:19 AM
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thanks yoda.

yar they are all a crafty bunch of managers in this league. just when u think u have it all worked out... bam. Crockers goes and ruins it for everybody.
im joking, love ur work bevers

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215616.7 in reply to 215616.6
Date: 5/4/2012 11:43:38 AM
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I think it was about 8 seasons ago that I thought I had a chance at promoting. What also needs to be considered is how seriously some managers take the season. I had no chance of promotion so this season was about building up for seasons to come. As it was so close I was forced to bring in a player to try and avoid a relegation series.

Div II is so tough because every one of the managers knows enough to be promoted, but there is only 1 out of the 16 that will get the job done. Well done on your first season in Div II. I remember I made the playoffs the first season I promoted (season 11). You are going to flick between different strategies and team structures until you promote. You are going to think you have it all worked out and then find yourself back at the drawing board. If you don't then I will look up to you as one of the more intelligent managers I have seen in this game.

Best of luck

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Date: 4/2/2013 11:20:49 PM
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A good write up and certainly a tough division to land in with Avalon Jets, Hadders and Team Akuma with his expensive starting 5.

Give yourself a bit of credit, it wasnt until after spending 4 seasons in our beloved II.3 and my first season in the ABBL that I obtained anywhere near the amount of knowledge that you already have.

What are your plans for this season given the apparrant stranglehold Team Akuma has on promotion?

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Date: 4/3/2013 12:53:50 AM
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wow talk about resurrecting an old thread...what are you doing sid lol

and...i would like to reiterate...both you and I are in the same position on the ladder - 8-0. Our PD difference isnt even that big. I don't think I have a stranglehold on this league at all. If anything, I am suspecting you are trying to shift all the heat on me so you can slide under the radar :P

I won't argue that my starting 5 is expensive though. Well really, starting 4. My SF is pretty cheap, but has worked out to be pretty good value for money.

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Date: 4/3/2013 1:26:23 AM
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wow talk about resurrecting an old thread...what are you doing sid lol


Wow I didnt even realise it was an old thread. I must have been hungover as I actually thought the thread was in the Wombat Federation

and...i would like to reiterate...both you and I are in the same position on the ladder - 8-0. Our PD difference isnt even that big. I don't think I have a stranglehold on this league at all. If anything, I am suspecting you are trying to shift all the heat on me so you can slide under the radar :P


Not like me to speak pooiiisssson to try and lull you into a sense of over confidence, mind you the smart thing for me to do would be to sell off a few of my older players, restructure the team and tank after I get another 4 wins

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215616.11 in reply to 215616.8
Date: 4/3/2013 1:42:27 AM
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yer nearly a year ago to the day!
Happy birthday to the thread!

I wrote that with retrospect to my first season in Div II. I think i was quite lucky, VictorianMages tanked early and then went bot, Docs Patients pretty much tanked and then went bot, and Stone Slashers tanked, Haggards tanked and went bot,

so yer thats some big name talent pretty much giving up in my first Div II season - was very lucky. in saying that, my boy Alcide finished second in scoring and 3rd in MVP, so yey me.

Yer no offence to TAK, but he is bleeding cash and even if he does keep his team until the final's AND he promotes, then he will be going into the ABBL with an undersized arena and probably a debt, so he really isnt my main concern.
Smart move for him would be to offload his guys post-all-star break, other teams will want them for their finals campaigns and he will get max dollar for them.
which pretty much leaves you or Northcote or MJP to make a move for the finals. And i know who has the most cash out of all 3 of those guys :)

So what are my plans? Not sure at this point, im still sussing out a few options. If i can get past Fashion Victims and his Crunch time on me this week in the cup, then I will have won 3 away games in a row, which is not a bad effort.

If i lose, well.. we shall see.

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Date: 4/3/2013 1:50:46 AM
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To be honest I dont think Akuma is bleeding that much money although it had occurred to me the fact that he hadnt expanded his stadium was a sign that he doesnt have millions stashed away.

Things that will knock him is the lack of a gate income during the Allstar week, the loss of 50plus K a week when he gets knocked out of the cup and the annual injury to Duffill when it occurs.

I think he should buy in another 100K player or 2 just to speed up the blood (I mean cash) loss

I think I worked it out that if he had 700K or so in the bank after a financial update and had an injury free season that we'd all be pretty much gone

which pretty much leaves you or Northcote or MJP to make a move for the finals. And i know who has the most cash out of all 3 of those guys :)


Please enlighten us all to who this might be

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 4/3/2013 1:52:01 AM