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From: Tangosz

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Date: 5/17/2012 9:13:47 AM
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Heh, I suppose you aren't following much, because on Monday, the USA U21 just beat Poland to win the overall U21 Worlds. :)

From: Flamen

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Date: 5/17/2012 9:27:41 AM
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Heh, I suppose you aren't following much, because on Monday, the USA U21 just beat Poland to win the overall U21 Worlds.


As I told you i do not follow U21, so all my comments are about senior national teams. USA beating poland on u21 means nearly nothing, there are tons of NT players that are not balanced enough to play in u21, players trained to make the most of elastic effect. And the mayority of u21 players cap before making it to the senior nt.

My believe still stands, you dont need to agree nor I need you to, but with same GS/enthusiasm and without HCA there is no NT that can beat poland. (and in the same conditions there are 4 or 6 teams better than USA)

From: Tangosz

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Date: 5/17/2012 10:31:58 AM
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ah, well your initial comment wasn't terribly clear that it only referred to NT, not U21.

No need to get your knickers in a bunch.

From: docend24

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Date: 5/18/2012 6:54:33 PM
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Then you don't follow senior national team much as well as it fairly recent wen Poland lost on neutral soil and France have no shot at making world championship this season.

From: Flamen

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Date: 5/18/2012 9:36:39 PM
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I bet they had bad gs and I bet they used enthusiasm against hungary. All games after that are close games.

But of course there are a group of NTs that can wint in a good game vs a bad polish games, but they are still favorites xD

From: Flamen

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Date: 5/19/2012 9:16:07 AM
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They have no players so they cant be scouted.

Before the game if you want to be at you competitive peak, and before salaries if you want to reward managers you call a 12 player roster. We have done the same in spain NT.

From: docend24

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Date: 5/19/2012 10:36:20 AM
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I bet they had bad gs and I bet they used enthusiasm against hungary. All games after that are close games.

But of course there are a group of NTs that can wint in a good game vs a bad polish games, but they are still favorites xD

That's not what were you saying, so no "of course" will save you from being wrong.

My believe still stands, you dont need to agree nor I need you to, but with same GS/enthusiasm and without HCA there is no NT that can beat poland.

It is not that crucial to make me go and ask around what enthusiasm and game shapes were, it is pitiful how you are trying to make assumptions to go in your favor. I bet Poland didn't used up their enthuisiasm against Hungary when Hungary played with stronger effort against them. Usually top team save as much as they can in those round robin groups. Enthusiasm management is part of the game and makes strenght of the team as much as the palyers. Unless teams meet each other after one is just after used CT the enthusiasm argument don't have any legs.

Of course Poland is usually favourite and they are bit ahead but making claims like you did is just absurd - you are just asking to be called out.

From: Flamen

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Date: 5/19/2012 10:59:07 AM
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Why dont you bold my whole statement?

It clearly says that with same GS/enthusiasm, same gameshape is imposible, so that is the way to reach up to them, but get my whole remark, read it again and that is my opinion.

From: docend24

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Date: 5/19/2012 11:26:22 AM
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At first I wanted to bold AND - that means both condition would have to be met. That's clearly false.

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