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I forgot the link to the above quote:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/02/opinion/la-oe-070...

So yeah, i think the NBA has some issues to deal with. Only, i´m not to sure anyone in the NBA wants to deal with something like that.

i also believe there is some drug use going around in the NBA, afaik the punishment is really low(10 games?) and they don't test during the off season.(no blood tests)

Also we have plenty of players who are really strong in very young years, yes they are excellent athletes and put lot of effort in but for me some of them look unreal and hard to explain with effort only. Also some player gain lot of weigth during off season without getting fat, especially some player in europe catch up in terms of muscles.

But even with drugs they would be great athletes for me.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 8/5/2012 10:57:16 AM

Also some player gain lot of weigth during off season without getting fat, especially some player in europe catch up in terms of muscles.

This is interesting. Do you have some examples of European players bulking up?

i try to look out for it, i remember some examples while discussing nba chanches of a german talent in a basketball forum but the thread is quite big.

aight Dwyane... Ask your new teammate Rashard where his game went after he got busted.

I wouldn't be surprise if there are some player using PED, but not like it used to be in Baseball and some other sportsl. Do I think there are a lot of players smoking weed though...you bet!

I wouldn't be surprise if there are some player using PED, but not like it used to be in Baseball and some other sportsl.

But why not? :)
It´s not like they don´t have a lot of incentive to do it, and very little chance of ever getting caught.

They use PEDs most of the time, not to be better on the court, but to recovery faster...imagine those huge bodies to play 3-4 games in a week plus all that traveling...Some rumors where saying that the kidney problems that Moorning had where connected with that kind of PEDs...

They use PEDs most of the time, not to be better on the court, but to recovery faster...imagine those huge bodies to play 3-4 games in a week plus all that traveling...Some rumors where saying that the kidney problems that Moorning had where connected with that kind of PEDs...

Thats why most athletes... save Olympic track/swimmer people, and NFL football people. use steroids, the recovery.

Pitchers use steroids 200% as much as hitters, but honestly, nobody cares when a pitcher juices except for Clemens. People don't want to admit, even if Clemens did't juice, he'd still have thrown that hard at an old age (for reference, check Nolan Ryan, Sandy Koufax, Randy Johnson), but... he probably wouldn't have been pitching near as many innings as he did in fairness.

Being an ex-mlb minor league player myself, my personal philosophy. "I would like to see all steroid users, caught, proven, etc. Banned. Like, Joe Jackson, Pete Rose kind of banned. permanently. What defiles the game more? Betting your team will win? Being accused of throwing a world series, or knowing teammates were and not doing anything? Or, breaking records, and getting your name in history books, having all your memorbilia (which is like stock practically) soar in value? Bonds was a 500/500 guy before steroids... he was already HOF, but he got jealous of McGwire and Sosa crap being worth more, and getting more publicity, so he juices. Now he's a disgrace. Bud Selig's inconsistencies with everything is single handedly helping ruin baseball. Ppl are starting to accuse Rickey Henderson of juicing now... Rickey! If Rickey was juicing I'll give my paycheck to Bud Selig personally!

Strike them all from the books, ban them from the leagues, (bonds, palmerio, sosa, mcgwire, grimsey, clemens, braun, ramirez, caminitti, giambi, etc. etc. tulo once hes caught), and bring up minor leaguers/college players/etc that have a respect for the game. Game will be just as interesting to watch, if not more. What they did was way worse than Pete Rose...

I can get your point, but you are talking to me about a sport that i dont even know the rules unfortunately...i tried really hard to watch some games, but it was so boooring for me...

Last edited by JohnnyB at 8/11/2012 1:29:23 AM

Strike them all from the books, ban them from the leagues, (bonds, palmerio, sosa, mcgwire, grimsey, clemens, braun, ramirez, caminitti, giambi, etc. etc. tulo once hes caught), and bring up minor leaguers/college players/etc that have a respect for the game. Game will be just as interesting to watch, if not more. What they did was way worse than Pete Rose...

I could not agree more.

I don´t know much about baseball but the same thing annoys me in the olympics. I hate to se former medal winners returning from a ban and then competing for more medals.


Oh, got to add this qoute. I know it is probably more about the hassle of having to do the test but for this thread it was pure gold:

"..Kobe Bryant was chosen to take a mandatory drug test following Team USA's quarterfinal victory Australia on Wednesday, according to a source.

Bryant didn't return to the hotel until 2 AM.

Bryant led the United States with 20 points.

Grant Hill told the media in July that all Team USA players in 1996 tried to avoid becoming the leading scorer due to the likelihood of being chosen for a random drug test...."

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/222931/Kobe_Selected...