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224896.4 in reply to 224896.3
Date: 8/22/2012 12:12:33 PM
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Kobe is nothing like Melo

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224896.5 in reply to 224896.4
Date: 8/22/2012 5:25:37 PM
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Kobe Role - Lead Team, Score Ball, Take over Games!
Melo Role - Lead Team, Score Ball, Take over Games!

Both excel at scoring, both have lock down defense, both average around 3-4 assist, come on what do you mean they are nothing alike.

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224896.6 in reply to 224896.5
Date: 8/23/2012 6:04:09 AM
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Kobe Role - Lead Team, Score Ball, Take over Games!
Melo Role - Lead Team, Score Ball, Take over Games!

Both excel at scoring, both have lock down defense, both average around 3-4 assist, come on what do you mean they are nothing alike.



I can think of.... 3 or 4 games, from the 2008-2009 playoffs where Carmello played "lock down defense"... over the ohter 500+ games or so he's played... I'm trying to think of as many examples as he had in that 1 Mavericks series... and struggling....

Nobody would accuse Melo of being a lockdown defender... but thats the only part of your comparsion you have wrong, and I agree that they are very comparable otherwise.

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224896.7 in reply to 224896.5
Date: 8/23/2012 3:38:17 PM
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Yeah, I second what LBJ said. I have watched Melo play, and except for a couple game here or there over the past 5 years, he has done the same thing, game-in, game-out: ballhog, take 30-40 shots a game, at best he only makes ~20 or so, and his teams aren't as successful. The Knicks did make some additions this offseason, but I think the same thing will happen this season. Lastly, how can you say that Kobe and Melo are alike when Kobe has 5 NBA titles, while Melo has ZERO? Just my 2 cents.

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224896.10 in reply to 224896.7
Date: 8/24/2012 12:56:01 AM
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Ok Kobe has championships that does not mean he cant be compared to anyone. They compare Dwight and Shaq they compare Lebron and Jordan, hell they compare Kobe and Jordan. Dirk and Bird. Number of Titles has nothing to do with the game play comparison. And when you listen to Interviews even Kobe's and I quote, "No one can really guard me Haha, but if I had to say it would be Carmelo, he has a grind it out game and his length helps a lot." Other players to say melo was Wade, Peirce

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224896.11 in reply to 224896.10
Date: 8/24/2012 2:39:48 AM
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If Melo was a lockdown defender... then the Nuggets... when they had, Camby, Melo, Iverson, etc. Should have been able to make a finals, possibly win 1.

Thats having a lockdown defender, 2 of the best 5 scorers in the league, and the 2nd best defensive player in league (behind at the time Ben Wallace) in Camby.


you are failing to address Emirical evidence that Carmello is a "lock down defender" and instead just stating the opinions of a few select samples of people.

For Example: compare Kobe's numbers and %s when he was guarded by Ron Artest, vs Carmello.

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224896.12 in reply to 224896.11
Date: 8/24/2012 6:22:59 PM
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Dont take things out of context. Carmelo may have lock down defense but a team defense he lacks where the nuggets that season as many other seasons rarely ran a man defense. Where as but if you watch games in the areas where they did run man to man you tell me if your opinion does not change. I never said Melo was a better defensive player than Artest either. I however do understand your argument provided through the example. But what you fail to realize are the intangibles that come along with what may or may not have made Kobe chose Melo. Over even the fact that the only thing people hate about Artest is strength and hand speed. Where as Melo may not surpass Artest there. But he does bring more that can irritate whoever he defends.

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224896.13 in reply to 224896.12
Date: 8/24/2012 8:06:52 PM
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Lock down defense usually translates to good team defense. 9/10 times. Just saying.

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224896.14 in reply to 224896.13
Date: 8/24/2012 10:17:15 PM
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Not really. Lock down usually translates to good man to man. For instance Pheonix Grant Hill great defender Phenoix as a team allowed to many points. Knicks Melo and Chandler Great defense Team allowed to many points. Boston Lock down Team Defense Man to man Rondo and KG great lockdown. Pierce decent Allen ASS!!

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