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236746.4 in reply to 236746.1
Date: 3/1/2013 5:54:19 PM
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Yeah these guys aren't gonna do you much good. I'd try and sell any that has an indication of selling for 10k or more, otherwise just keep them until you got something better, but you don't need to train them.

I'd try to look for some inexpensive trainees next season (though you'd want at least Star potential, preferably 3k+ salary). I wouldn't spend too much money on trainees though, as you'll need to learn to train them properly first. I'd spend at most 50k for 1, 75k total for 3 (keep in mind this is just my personal opinion, I know a lot of people here would suggest buying all-star or higher trainees but I don't think it's worth spending much money on them if you don't know how to make use of them).

I'd spend the most of my money on my arena, as that will be your steady source of income. Any investment in your arena will pay off in time, usually after 1 season. After that, you'll earn more than you've invested in it. I'd say invest about half your money in your arena.

Then save some money to find veteran players on the transfer list; younger than 32 years and at most 20k salary.

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236746.5 in reply to 236746.4
Date: 3/1/2013 6:03:24 PM
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If that is the case... Why not train some of these guys until I got the swing of training and then sell them for whatever I can get which will be all profit anyways and use that money to next offseason buy better trainees?

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236746.7 in reply to 236746.5
Date: 3/1/2013 8:24:55 PM
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You could do that too, but I've bought better trainees for 5k. I just thought it would be a good middle road, as most people here tell you to go all out right away.

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236746.8 in reply to 236746.7
Date: 3/1/2013 9:02:55 PM
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236746.9 in reply to 236746.6
Date: 3/1/2013 9:25:35 PM
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William Albert is very good, in my opinion. Even though he has missed a season of training, he could be worth training. He can be a solid SG with good secondary skills, salary efficient. I'd start training every skill once next season, maybe he has good sublevels.

Start with two weeks of passing, until it improves to 5
A week or two of 1v1 forwards until JS,HA,DR,IS all pop once.
A week or two of outside shooting until JR pops
Maybe even some ID and shotblocking for centers

If his sublevels are good, he might suddenly become solid trainee. Btw, are the starting scrubs counted as the teams own draftees? I mean, when it comes to merchandising sales


His SB is already at 7 why would you purposely train it higher?
I get the ID training, if the guy were to make Albert into an SF.... but with where his skills are already, he's probably more suited to just keep developing him as an SG or LI Guard. For him to be a functional SF he'd need rebounding, and that would 1. take time, and 2. burn salary.

No, with the pitiful rebounding, he's better off just rounding out his guard skills, maybe do some IS training and throw Balsiger on it if he doesn't get any draftees worth more than these bums, or if he doesn't buy some decent trainees.

Had he started the season with this team instead of ending the season with it, it would have been a quite different story... but timing is everything. He should find 3 18years and start there...

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236746.10 in reply to 236746.8
Date: 3/1/2013 10:08:06 PM
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build some arena, and keep the allstar guy for your third trainee and when draftees come up go for star-perrenial allstar potential guys that are less then 50k. Try and get guys in the Albert's height area that way they're good to train (6'4'' and under for the guards) then work on some passing and Outside defense to start off, that way the guys will be good passers and defenders (also would make you not worry about getting owned by better guards in D4) Just my 2 cents on this discussion.

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236746.11 in reply to 236746.10
Date: 3/2/2013 1:05:37 AM
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William Albert (29474474) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 3 952
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: awful
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: average

This player is fine as a 3rd trainee as he is an original player you will get a merchandising boost from having trained him and it is good to keep at least someone from your startup team. For training he needs OD, PA and JS. With luck you can draft a second trainable player. Then I would just buy a third one and for the third make sure he has at least superstar potential. Everyone will scream at me for saying this but I think you should buy a 19 year old. For peanuts you can pick up a 19 year old with better height, potential and skills than you will be able to afford in an 18 year old. In reality, the 19 year old with better starting skills and height is probably only six months behind the lesser 18 year old but everyone goes nuts over the 18s.

6'0" $5,000 salary 19 year old superstars will sell for less than 6'6" $3,500 18 year old perrenial all stars. If you are a new team that wants to train guards the first is much better.

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236746.12 in reply to 236746.11
Date: 3/2/2013 1:41:23 AM
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This player is fine as a 3rd trainee as he is an original player you will get a merchandising boost from having trained him and it is good to keep at least someone from your startup team. For training he needs OD, PA and JS. With luck you can draft a second trainable player. Then I would just buy a third one and for the third make sure he has at least superstar potential. Everyone will scream at me for saying this but I think you should buy a 19 year old. For peanuts you can pick up a 19 year old with better height, potential and skills than you will be able to afford in an 18 year old. In reality, the 19 year old with better starting skills and height is probably only six months behind the lesser 18 year old but everyone goes nuts over the 18s.

6'0" $5,000 salary 19 year old superstars will sell for less than 6'6" $3,500 18 year old perrenial all stars. If you are a new team that wants to train guards the first is much better.


I agree with the Seagulls.
Also, you'll still be in DV next season, which will mostly be bots. As long as you scout for the draft, you'll probably get a good draftee or two after the season regardless of where you finish, since the bots don't scout. That may be where you draft the guy you want to build your team and training plans around.

I had a similar guy in my start up team. I messed up his training a bit early (a lot of 2 position training, no inside training), but he still has had a good career for me. Carlos Kenney: (11657221)
I've also enjoyed keeping him on my team more than if he had just been some guy I'd bought from Europe, but that's me.


Last edited by BrianMathews at 3/2/2013 1:59:49 AM

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236746.13 in reply to 236746.11
Date: 3/2/2013 3:37:54 PM
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William Albert (29474474) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 3 952
Age: 18
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: awful
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: pitiful Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: average

This player is fine as a 3rd trainee as he is an original player you will get a merchandising boost from having trained him and it is good to keep at least someone from your startup team. For training he needs OD, PA and JS. With luck you can draft a second trainable player. Then I would just buy a third one and for the third make sure he has at least superstar potential. Everyone will scream at me for saying this but I think you should buy a 19 year old. For peanuts you can pick up a 19 year old with better height, potential and skills than you will be able to afford in an 18 year old. In reality, the 19 year old with better starting skills and height is probably only six months behind the lesser 18 year old but everyone goes nuts over the 18s.

6'0" $5,000 salary 19 year old superstars will sell for less than 6'6" $3,500 18 year old perrenial all stars. If you are a new team that wants to train guards the first is much better.



Kinda a shame that Mahoney wasn't the 18 year old and Albert the 19year old in my book.... I think this advice is very sound, but still maintain he should use his new-franchise start-up money (which it looks like he sank into his arena entirely), and buy 3 18year old guys if the draft is a bust. then just throw these other guys he has posted on a as needed basis to JS, 1v1, Reb, whatever 2-pos training he needs based on height of drafted/purchased trainees.

the 19 year old SS purchase is baller ... I think I might steal that advice myself for my own team...

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236746.14 in reply to 236746.6
Date: 3/3/2013 10:57:29 PM
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i have to agree. very well said.

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