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241350.4 in reply to 241350.1
Date: 5/5/2013 8:59:47 AM
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What I'm pissed about is I got called out and then the thread closed leaving me unable to respond. This game has, to me, seemingly gotten worse instead of better since I joined, and I'm getting a little fed up with it.

Now, Namssor, when did I attack you? I simply stated a fact. You did avoid answering what most of us wanted to know. I can entirely understand that your hands may have been tied and you can't answer everything, but what I said was still true. There is no need to dance around the questions, either answer them or straight up say that you can't and won't talk about the issue. That's all you have to do.

Last edited by adchester at 5/5/2013 10:31:03 AM

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241350.5 in reply to 241350.4
Date: 5/5/2013 9:28:50 AM
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Although the thread was abruptly closed, I was pleased with the response that Prof Bricks mentioned above and think that is whats many of us wanted to hear. Thank you

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241350.6 in reply to 241350.3
Date: 5/5/2013 1:10:13 PM
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Dummy, you couldn't be more wrong. If there are no supporters or people playing this game, there is no game anymore. If there are people profiting from this game than they have an obligation to their customers. Period.

Your entire post isn't worth reading after that statement. I'm not even going to waste my time acknowledging the rest of the crap in it.

From: jfarb
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241350.7 in reply to 241350.5
Date: 5/5/2013 1:11:09 PM
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Woah if I was namssor I would've responded the same way, hell if I was still mod I think I would've closed the topic before it got started. Thread started turning towards blaming the ppl who are trying to give us answers. Reason I asked our GMs for a response and didn't go to the complaining forum or wherever we were supposed to go is because I know and trust namssor and Jason, and consider them our representatives. Assumed if I posted it somewhere else I wind up getting some response from a GM from France who doesnt care. Thats not a fair assumption, so we can and should just take the complaint to the BBs.

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From: Hoosier

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241350.8 in reply to 241350.7
Date: 5/5/2013 1:33:17 PM
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I agree with you on this completely. If policy states that a forum be closed then close it early on. Don't let it linger for 8 pages and then decide to close it in a rage, completely dismissing the valid concerns of those partaking in a forum you already deemed to be worthy topic.

From: shikago
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241350.9 in reply to 241350.7
Date: 5/5/2013 4:29:14 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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I think we're pretty lucky to have the GMs we do.
They're pretty cool about things & reasonable. Unlike a certain foreign GM. Hopefully they stay that way.
I also like that they let threads go for a while.


Sad to see another newspaper shutdown in the digital age, but c'est la vie...

From: shikago
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241350.10 in reply to 241350.8
Date: 5/5/2013 4:33:12 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Also, to anyone frustrated...
IMO Getting mad at GMs is like someone being upset with a company, then taking it out on random customer service reps. It would be a whole different thing if our GMs were complete jerks & actively protecting "suspicious" teams of their own volition. But they seem to be on our side. Plus, taking things out on GMs leads to: "THIS IS WHY WE CAN"T HAVE NICE THINGS"

Sadly it looks like there's no real recourse against certain suspicious, shameless teams... all that can be done is to make others aware of the situation & to shun / ostracize said teams.


Anyway... is there a way to get across everyone's dissatisfaction directly to the BBs? Or do they already know, & just not give a damn? Because it's one or the other based on their lack of response/action.

From: Hoosier

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241350.11 in reply to 241350.10
Date: 5/6/2013 12:10:24 AM
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Very good point.

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241350.12 in reply to 241350.11
Date: 5/6/2013 3:27:13 PM
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While I appreciate your initial post and consider it at minimum to be reasonable, I must respond that you are barking up the wrong tree. From nearly the beginning this game has been run in an amateurish fashion mostly by people who protect their own interests first, and consider the needs of the base as a secondary consideration. One need only look at the history of growth in the user base to realize something serious is lacking. I was introduced to this game years ago by a couple of supporters who raved about the game's potential and became a supporter myself. Over the years those who introduced me are long gone due mostly to what they considered unprofessional management and clique based decision making. I still play but my fervor is severely reduced and my instances of referral have been reduced to 0. If the game is ever sold to a more serious business based company, and run by people who are not protecting their team and interests first perhaps concerns like yours will be reduced and properly addressed. Until then my advice is to basically take it or leave it as it is.

Last edited by buzzerbeatme at 5/6/2013 3:28:29 PM

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241350.13 in reply to 241350.12
Date: 5/6/2013 4:16:28 PM
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Your post is very interesting. I would like to see some examples of this "unprofessional" and "clique based" management. I would particularly like to see some of the decisions made to protect a certain team's interests first too. These are pretty serious accusations, and not something I myself have been witness to. I think those are some pretty serious accusations to make toward the developers of this game, and I'm certain you wouldn't have said something like that without having the information and examples to back it up. I'm just curious, since I've been around here for a while and haven't seen anything remotely close to what you describe.

Last edited by yeppers at 5/6/2013 4:17:28 PM

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241350.14 in reply to 241350.13
Date: 5/6/2013 7:07:28 PM
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I second this. I personally have not seen any evidence of this either. The worst I could personally say is that the developers don't seem to have too much urgency(for lack of a better word) to fix/improve the game. I would agree that something is lacking and my interest in the game is also waning, but I haven't seen any evidence of some of the things you said.

Last edited by adchester at 5/6/2013 7:23:45 PM

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