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275874.4 in reply to 275874.3
Date: 12/28/2015 1:52:14 PM
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OD is the only skill IMHO that checks an opponent's HA and PA which create shot opportunities.

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Date: 12/28/2015 11:39:01 PM
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ID works great when you have SB to go along with it. Without SB, you just have sweaty man boobs pressed up against the offense with no ability to alter or block the shot and in those circumstances decent IS often prevails.

I agree with this. I've coupled SB and ID with my new roster and the results have been pretty good so far. Teams just can't score inside on me.

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Date: 12/29/2015 11:33:21 AM
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Of course both are better than either standalone. Added that you'd like to have REB so that when your opponent misses you get the ball back. Everything is connected... like the matrix... pick your pill.

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Date: 12/29/2015 11:41:22 AM
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Yes but trying to stop inside attacks with Inside Defense alone is like trying to run a 100 m dash with only one leg. Point being that ID is probably used to counter the guards ability to feed the big the ball and shot blocking is what actually alters any attempted shots.

As for your rebounding comment.... It certainly helps, but if you play any player at PF or C they will get rebounds regardless of their skill. Milwaukee Lethargy has a player with absolute 0 in the rebounding skill and he still managed to grab something like eight rebounds, if I remember right, in a single game because he played inside.

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Date: 12/29/2015 12:18:24 PM
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I'm expermetimg with some players and I don't plan on training ID. Yea they might ball down low but if they shoot it will be contested, altered or blocked. I rather be able to get a block or a good shot contest than stopping the big man from catching down low. They will get the ball down low and get position sooner or later because that's the main focus of the offense and when they catch it will be an easy layup since they have low SB.

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Date: 12/29/2015 12:26:23 PM
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Yea ID paired with SB would be better than SB alone but I would like to see skills in other spots that would take up salary and cap like IS, RB, JS. You have to give up skills somewhere to add SB and I'm going to try to skimp on ID a bunch. My ID on my players will be around 9-11 so let's see what will happen in a couple seasons.

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Date: 12/29/2015 4:37:52 PM
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13/5/14/14/13/9--16/10/16/17 (131TSP)buzzer manger says his cap would be 90-96% so I might add a RB, SB pop.

14/8/16/15/16/12--14/9/12/15 (131TSP) probably won't reach those guard skills exactly.

I have another player that will look similar to the 2nd build but less big skills. Haven't decided on his final build yet. He only has PA potential so I'll have to be careful. These are nice tweener builds. They can play SF/PF. I'm going to run 3-2 and 2-3 exclusively. Walsh and Leo would be perfect to play at SF and PF in a 2-3. Not sure where to play that 2nd build on offense yet. Might need to add some more JS or IS.

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Date: 12/29/2015 6:32:01 PM
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As for your rebounding comment.... It certainly helps, but if you play any player at PF or C they will get rebounds regardless of their skill. Milwaukee Lethargy has a player with absolute 0 in the rebounding skill and he still managed to grab something like eight rebounds, if I remember right, in a single game because he played inside.


But what is the rebound ratio compared to the opposing PF? All numbers need to be normalized against something. If you are getting 8 boards against an opposition's 24 it's completely different than getting 8 against 4.

All skills in this game [outside of passing and FT which I've seen anecdotal examples of zero return on zero investment] can function in the absence of skill within. But figuring out the bottom [normalization] is the key. So is giving up X number of boards worth forcing X number of shots? This is what one most figure out really.

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Date: 12/29/2015 6:39:38 PM
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Yeah I know, I'm just saying that all players are gonna rebound, the stat helps them of course, but I'd rarely consider it the most important skill for a big.

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