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284011.4 in reply to 284011.1
Date: 12/19/2016 9:09:29 PM
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Should have played Carlton Old mate!

Skills especially defense are coming on nicely.

From: whitewind

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284011.5 in reply to 284011.3
Date: 12/22/2016 4:57:39 PM
rimmers
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Redbacks
Sorry Lordy, missed this:

Not as good as the teams were 6 seasons ago. Depth has been the biggest change since then.

We need more aussie trainers training young aussies!

Sad to see us not qualify for the WC. We did our homework, got the GDP right, spent time debating over the right matchups and offensive tactics. I think if we'd got the enthusiasm advantage i was trying to get it wouldve been 50/50, but they CTd aswell.

MVPs
3- Steven
2- Do
1- Pearce

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284011.6 in reply to 284011.5
Date: 1/2/2017 7:54:44 AM
rimmers
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Redbacks
A nice win tonight after limited preparation. What a performance from Morgan!

MVPs
3 votes- Morgan (52pts, 10 assists, 10 from 21 3pters, 4 boards, 2 steals).
2- Mawby (16pts, 6 assists, 2 boards, 1 steal).
1- Steven (12 rebs, 7pts, 2 assists, 1 steal).

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284011.7 in reply to 284011.5
Date: 1/4/2017 1:25:57 AM
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Need more trainers but also need coaches to sell their kids if they don't plan on training them properly....I'm looking to get back into training rookies but the oz market is very empty

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284011.8 in reply to 284011.7
Date: 1/7/2017 3:29:23 PM
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any country with less than 300 users generally see the markets dry up real fast. you have an overflow just after the draft. 2 weeks after, it generally starts drying out.

keep your eyes open. maybe you'll get lucky.

From: Mr J

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284011.9 in reply to 284011.7
Date: 1/9/2017 3:06:49 AM
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Need more trainers but also need coaches to sell their kids if they don't plan on training them properly....I'm looking to get back into training rookies but the oz market is very empty


Yep. I've been waiting and watching for quality 18 yr old bigs...but none came p this past off-season. So I bought overseas rookies and will train them up, sell them off and then draft and buy Aussie rookies. Painfully long process but what else can I do...

From: whitewind

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284011.10 in reply to 284011.9
Date: 1/9/2017 9:12:51 AM
rimmers
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I went through searching in div 3 for a quality trainee. I found an 18yr old mvp not getting training. I bbmailed the manager who took 3-4 days to reply. He wants to know how a price.


I used a similar strategy when I needed a quality trainee back in season 21 , and found a team called possum chasers who sold me a payer I was interested in called Ryan Macmillan. He is now about to take over the top 3 all time for games played in our national team. It's worth while chasing the players you want.

If you send me height/potential requirements I can scout and find you players available. Bbmail me.

From: Mr J

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284011.11 in reply to 284011.10
Date: 1/9/2017 10:45:55 AM
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I went through searching in div 3 for a quality trainee. I found an 18yr old mvp not getting training. I bbmailed the manager who took 3-4 days to reply. He wants to know how a price.


:-)

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284011.12 in reply to 284011.10
Date: 1/9/2017 10:59:07 AM
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I went through searching in div 3 for a quality trainee. I found an 18yr old mvp not getting training. I bbmailed the manager who took 3-4 days to reply. He wants to know how a price.


I used a similar strategy when I needed a quality trainee back in season 21 , and found a team called possum chasers who sold me a payer I was interested in called Ryan Macmillan. He is now about to take over the top 3 all time for games played in our national team. It's worth while chasing the players you want.

If you send me height/potential requirements I can scout and find you players available. Bbmail me.


I'd like to inform the readers here about a couple of things, just to inform them about rules but also to dissuade managers from doing the recrutement themselves!

1) if a non U21/NT manager mails a manager for the skillset of a player, then if he gets reported, you generally will get punished (formal warning or fines if it isn't your first infringement). A scout is only officially considered a scout if he's mentioned on the U21 page or in a sticky post on the forum from the U21 manager, detailing who is on his staff. this is dissuade managers from mailing to other managers pretending that they want to recrute those players where as their only goal would be the knowledge of the skills of that player (also referred to as skilltheft and was very popular in the past!). So you have to be mighty careful with what you are doing.

2) an U21/NT manager can't pressure a manager to sell a player. They can advise (and plea) for it, but something such as:
Hey Userxx,

you have bought player Y, who is a prospect for the U21 of nation Z. Don't get me wrong, but could you put the player Y back on the market at 26 hours? I'd rather have a more experienced manager train him, so that he can forfill his potential

regards
U21/NT coach

Such a message won't be accepted either & will be handled the same way as a spam message would be handled.

3) a U21 staff member (U21/NT manager or an official scout) can be subject to punishment for giving skills of players to 3rd party managers (non staff) if it can be proven. So giving the skills to a 3rd team, who then tries to start the recrutement, can also result in trouble (for the U21 staff & the person attempting to buy the player) So again, be carefull about it ;)

Couple of logical things:

*) the U21/Nt manager has to be the intermediary if you wish to move a prospect from 1 team to another
*) making deals around prices is very risky (don't need to explain that)
*) player swaps (putting a player up for a way to high price, bidding on him so that team B can bid for your player in the meanwhile, effectively swapping players between 2 teams) will be evaluated as individual transactions should the GM's notice it.

To summarize it:

Unless your U21/Nt coach works as intermediary, any mailing concerning a player can be considered spam. Be mightely carefull with your recrutement of non TL-players from other teams!

I've seen a fair amount of managers facing penalties from such actions in the past (some even after the player had been recruted as a way to sort of backstab the recruting manager)

So aslong as the U21/NT manager is doing all the mailing, then all is fine ;) Just know that you are potentially treading into a dangerous territory ;)



On another note:
Best of luck against the Bosnian U21 team tonight!

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284011.13 in reply to 284011.12
Date: 1/9/2017 5:51:27 PM
rimmers
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Redbacks
Ah OK, I wasn't aware they couldn't. Luckily I haven't asked for a skillset.

In this market I think prices are very hard to determine. Must be hard to detect money laundering.

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284011.14 in reply to 284011.13
Date: 1/10/2017 6:32:32 AM
rimmers
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Redbacks
We copped a beating from Bosnia last night. We did a few things to try and keep it close but was not enough. It is great having a discussion of tactics and some real in depth scouting to assist in preparations.

MVPs
3 votes- Steven
2 votes- Pearce
1 vote- Mawby

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