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So you screw your NT and the managers who train these players for what reason exactly?

Monoskilled players do no sell well on the market. Nobody will train a 100k+ salary monoskilled player out of position at 22yo. Tall players with HoF potential are actually invaluable for the NT if trained properly and all the linked players are HoF and one MVP.

If someone suggested to ruin tall players with high potential and asked managers to pay for a lvl 6/7 trainers plus training court in our community I would be disgusted and outraged. The Israeli community clearly must be different. To each their own, I guess

Last edited by Lemonshine at 5/14/2019 8:22:40 AM

Anyway, training guard skills for 7"4' player is a real screw. Besides those 3 mentioned ones there is also SB and JS that should be considered for training with his height IMO. Not every player has to reach 150 TSP, and no matter how multiskilled he is, the primaries matter the most. Hope this guy has good initial skills, so he'll be more effective for our both NTs.

I can ensure you that they have no chance.

That's because you lot probably aren't very good at training. Sure you have your farms, but even then, the ones who are on the TL looks fairly poor (see below).

Just the players that has no chance to reach the certain lvl we demand for the NT will be monoskilled because thats what works in U21.

Your NT has started a 30yo PF with 114 TSP against Spain in the last competitive game of s45. Again, what exactly you are talking about?

o yea, we ruin players that has no chance to be in our NT, so they could help the U21, what's wrong?

What's wrong is that unless they are farms (something that should be eliminated from the game), they have no reason to ruin players like that and take a massive hit financially.

False, I know players who were monoskilled, sold for more then 3M. 2.5M is a satisfying price too I think.

Provide examples so that we have context and can validate this silly claim. I know players who sold for 14m and more, I would not claim they will sell for that much now.

The israeli 105k has been trained with 5-5 trainers or 5-4 im not sure, no training court because his FT is totally fine.

I meant the gym or whatever other arena tool that boosts crosstraining

I present them everything that will happen - the salary of the future player, the price they could sell him and more.

Other than farms nobody and I mean nobody would train that way willingly, unless they are misled by someone else. Maybe you tell them a 80 TSP player with 140k salary actually sells for 3m and they believe you. In which case, if I was one of them, I would probably report you to a GM when my player sells for 1m or less and I have a net loss of a few millions on my hand because you misrepresented reality.
Just say they are all farms and we'll all be happy, but don't offend anybody's intelligence by saying that's a smart or reasonable way of training.

Would you train secondary skills for a guy which has zero secondary skills? Well, I think its stupid

That wasn't really my statement but anyway to answer your question: from a sale price perspective? Absolutely. From a salary cost perspective? Absolutely. From a tactical point of view? Absolutely

You would never use a 100k player with 60 TSP in you U21 and if you did then you probably should be replaced as the coach. And I would never use a player with 1 OD 1 PA and 1 HA for fear of losing to a team 80 ranks below me playing patient just to exploit him.

In any case, the players you linked don't have zero secondaries otherwise they would not have 100k salary. JS is the main difference maker there, so they have that at the very least. Also the Ast to TO ratio and steals suggest 9 PA or more and very decent OD for the German one and at least 4 or 5 PA for your player and, again, decent OD (but worse than the German). So no these are not players with big holes in key secondaries.

the coach that would have to train so much secondary skills just in order to get his secondary skills to average, never getting to the NT.

Your NT started a 31yo PF with 114 TSP in the last competitive game against Spain who is up for sale now (ironically for 3 million lol) and definitely has worse PA and OD than the German U21 you linked. So let's cut the BS.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 5/14/2019 1:58:12 PM

Anyway, training guard skills for 7"4' player is a real screw. Besides those 3 mentioned ones there is also SB and JS that should be considered for training with his height IMO.

First off, 7'0''+ with HoF and decent to good starting secondaries are good players to train as big men for the abundant farms you seem to have in Israel (if what your U21 coach say is true). They are players who can easily get 65+ inside skills because they can be pushed through the cap given their height. A 6'7''-6'8'' may get 145+ TSP and never be as good a C as the taller guy. Your NT starting C is 7'1'', perfect example.

The 145 TSP PF is almost always better mostly because of versatility and because he will cost less, but if salary is not a problem (again see your U21 coach theories) then why not make a 70 inside TSP monster? He will cost 350k per week, but hey, you just need to convince the manager that he can sell him for $50m and make back all the money he spent.

Hope this guy has good initial skills, so he'll be more effective for our both NTs.

This guy will have a 130k and maybe more salary at the end of the season. Explain to me who is going to pay 130-140k to play him at PG to improve his secondaries. At best, he will be played at PF and trained in 1v1 to end more or less like this guy: (38711520).

What a waste.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 5/14/2019 1:57:09 PM

How is this even possible (45999833)

What’s the highest you’ve seen?

He has been richest player in BB since the beginning: (6769986)

yeah I'm pretty sure he's the only player who almost tipped over $500k salary. If I remember correctly some of Joey Ka's posts he had something like 38 in the top 3 inside skills. That's filthy.

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