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30308.4 in reply to 30308.3
Date: 5/12/2008 6:01:28 AM
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Salarys: i don't like this idea because i see teams who don't promote because of the salarys, and i see managers who wonder about the high salary after buying a team from a low division club.


The difference doesnt have to be a 100% hike for each level you go up but if a incremental was added this would slow down the feeder club system which i see developing and ensure that teams wishing to promote have a good chance of survival at the first attempt.

If teams dont wish to compete then why are they playing? Stop cup winners from joining the BB3 or introduce a cup version then the only way to be successful is get to the top.

IMO the reason people dont promote is because they dont think they can survive... under this system they wouldnt have to dismantle their squad and whatever the salary raise would be would be offset by the extra income they would make in that division.

In other words if every team has the same ratio of income/outgoings why would you not promote?

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30308.5 in reply to 30308.4
Date: 5/12/2008 6:20:04 AM
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maybe they are afraid that they can#t afford their team anymore if they promote, maybe they like to win the cup and for this they need great players which want high salarys and for this maybe it was easier to paly in lower divisions to get good players for a fair salary.

Another point could be the reality, when i was a good player i want to play in better clubs so i was happy with lower salarys in a higher league and would ask for a pretty high salary when i was playing in a way to weak league for me. But this point ain't so big, because should make fun and must not a realistic simulation.

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30308.7 in reply to 30308.5
Date: 5/12/2008 8:27:21 AM
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I don't like the salary part.

Better players will get more salary.

It is only normal that the better players play in the gigher divisions.

When you implement the salary sugestion you made, it is very possible a divVII team will have a better team then a DivI team, which is not normal...

If this gets implemented, just fire all players with a wage of 4000 or less that are in the game right now, since no-one will want to play them anymore. Why would anyone, if players wage 6000 and up (in the current situation) become affordable for each team, no matter the Division.

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30308.8 in reply to 30308.7
Date: 5/12/2008 8:42:52 AM
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i think ive overshot with the numbers but believe the principle can still work.

the purpose is to help distribute cash in the game more equally - id like to see a way to force the top teams to have to spend more each week as at the moment the margin for error is much higher than a team fighting to stay up in l.3 for example.

We should all make decisions and have success / failure relative to one another no matter which division we are in.

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30308.9 in reply to 30308.8
Date: 5/12/2008 8:54:35 AM
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i think this will happen in time ;)

In germany the i leagues pays a lot salaries in comparison to the second league, just the top teams in the second league are nearly equal to the midfield of the first league ... I hope you could understand that.

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30308.10 in reply to 30308.9
Date: 5/12/2008 11:05:49 AM
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i think this will happen in time ;)

In germany the i leagues pays a lot salaries in comparison to the second league, just the top teams in the second league are nearly equal to the midfield of the first league ... I hope you could understand that.

exactly. As players will get trained further and further, higher division teams will need more expensive players to compete. When you look at it I had a good chance for the championship in Belgium last year, with players averaging 5,5k wages. In a few seasons division I teams probably need 10k or more on average wages per player to be able to compete, and a few seasons later it will be 20k...
Eventually all will level out and only teams that can succesfully manage income/costs will be able to stay competitive.

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30308.11 in reply to 30308.8
Date: 5/12/2008 5:02:02 PM
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I dunno if the BBs really want to reduce the money gap between the divisions because to do that it will be enough to reduce the amount of the TV live. The problem of the difference among the divisions will appear better in a few season and in order to not hurry to change suddenly this system, it should be better to think seriously about this matter from now. I don't have any idea yet...
Of course I should see an advantage playing in the top division, I'm playing to another browsing game where if you wanna stay in the first division you must spend a lot of money but in that game a lot of teams prefer to play in second or third division earning a lot of money climbing the divisions only when they are really rich. This system is not so good cause it's simply not funny. The only solution is to cut the entrances coming from TV bring its to the same level for all the divisions (100k/TV for example) reducing a little bit the "power" of the top teams cause they will have higher salaries with the same entrances, imho

Last edited by ned at 5/12/2008 5:02:23 PM

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30308.12 in reply to 30308.1
Date: 5/12/2008 5:11:40 PM
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Feel free to add or rip apart my brainwave!

I've got to agree with some others here. If you (or in fact the BBs) want to reduce the gaps between the divs there are easier ways to do that, sponsor money, attendance figures and so on.

This kind of different wages for different divs will only be confusing. At last when you are on the transfer market.

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30308.13 in reply to 30308.11
Date: 5/12/2008 5:13:35 PM
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Of course I should see an advantage playing in the top division, I'm playing to another browsing game where if you wanna stay in the first division you must spend a lot of money but in that game a lot of teams prefer to play in second or third division earning a lot of money climbing the divisions only when they are really rich. This system is not so good cause it's simply not funny.

Lowering wages will only mean that managers start to use even better players and then they will also (perhaps) have some problems with spending. This wouldn't be the case only if wages were so little compared to income that those wouldn't matter and no team could overspend. I don't think that would be cool.

EDIT: Nevermind, I was (again) thinking this wage increase the other way around.

Last edited by hoo-cee at 5/12/2008 5:18:41 PM

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30308.14 in reply to 30308.12
Date: 5/12/2008 5:15:02 PM
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If you (or in fact the BBs) want to reduce the gaps between the divs there are easier ways to do that


The BBs have spent the past few seasons making the gaps between the divisions wider.

My guess is that they probably don't want to narrow them.

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