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To my knowledge trading has been discussed a few times already. There is an option to trade players via TL (sell one of yours and buy one with the money you make). Trading gives too many options for cheating. If I have some nubs in my league I could trade all of their good players into my team etc. So could we please stop the trading suggestions at the start. Use transfer list.

Last edited by Kukoc at 3/6/2009 3:47:10 AM

I think that there are lot of noobs already, while the players are on TL anyway so what?

Last edited by Iordanou at 3/6/2009 3:50:17 AM

Look up the trade suggestion threads. There have been many things discussed in there. No need to start the discussion about the heavy minuses of the direct trade again. I will give you one example: great player (1mil value) vs crap player (1k value) trade goes through one side gains a lot.
On the TL you list both for 1k. crap player gets his value for 1k but great players transfer rate will be risen due to other users seeing it.
Now if you list both at 1mil and the other team buys the 1k one with 1 mil you will go great deal above the transfer value of the player and will get punished by a GM and the additional fee will be taken away. Great player at 1 mil if bought will give the team who listed him still the normal value for that player.
I hope this helped you to understand why direct trading is a bad idea. Nobody can actually monitor those trades.

Oh, you are right, direct trading is a bad idea. Anyway I see this suggestion only like that it would be done by representing of all putted players to a TL somewhere to the undermenu into a league page. And they would be on the TL anyway.

That means everytime you will put the player into TL, he will be shown on that submenu on your league.

Only issue I see on that is that your opponents would have good knowledge about your players which were putted on the TL, because this would help them, however Big Brother is watching you anyway through your roster page, while it takes slightly more work.

So only issue is the presentation on that submenu, while it is not so big deal in my opinion, because only active users are watching league page every 3 days. Anyway it is for a discussion.

This is not a direct trading, this is a representing. Is my silly habit to use only few percent from the original idea.

i think we should have a governing body like the gm of each league or the LA's to do the approving of the trade,

that is why im saying trading should only be given to teams of the same division because the level of game play in a division should be enough than to include teams that are not in the same country or different divisions.

this option should only for teams within their OWN DIVISIONS.

i can site other things like, putting it on the TL and pricing it way to high so no one can bid in and in the end of the day you cause trouble that you have explain yourself too much to the BB's and GM's why your doing it. but i think youll still get reprimanded.

another is to keep players of the same country to stay more in their own mother land, right now my team has all foreign guys. and i wish to have a good player but with the working relationship i have with my fellow country men and the cant forgive cant forget situation. right now im seeing my team just to have no australian guys probably in the next 2 or 3 seasons (pls lets not go over the draft ok)

we just have to make some rules, and how to check up on the dynamics of making a trade.

i think its stupid for one team to trade a player who has a salary of 40k to be traded to a player of 8k who doesnt have too much upside. same as the nba, the commisioner's office screens the trades if they can go through. likewise if those nba teams do follow the rules.

So only issue is the presentation on that submenu, while it is not so big deal in my opinion, because only active users are watching league page every 3 days. Anyway it is for a discussion.

i like to see first the press messages on the league oard, but till such things are realized maybe you could make an tl ad thread in your league forum - i think nobody will be angry about that.

i think its stupid for one team to trade a player who has a salary of 40k to be traded to a player of 8k who doesnt have too much upside. same as the nba, the commisioner's office screens the trades if they can go through. likewise if those nba teams do follow the rules.

but trades aren't official, i think must of cheating detection works through other buyer seeing high prices trnasfer which are reported to gm, i see to much effort in checking each trade manually with an gm.

And trading make it possible to cheat a lot, also in your own league don't forget you know then, maybe you get an friendship deal etc. Maybe you trade starplayers for one important game to the other team, or make bets with players.

So only issue is the presentation on that submenu, while it is not so big deal in my opinion, because only active users are watching league page every 3 days. Anyway it is for a discussion.

i like to see first the press messages on the league oard, but till such things are realized maybe you could make an tl ad thread in your league forum - i think nobody will be angry about that.

I don't need to sell my player to them, I would like to buy one maybe by the time from them. Anyway I'm too lazy to put the players even to the global forum.

I simply don't agree with that thing.

as im saying .. . .

if its hard to ask someone to comtrol the trade. why not make the rules stricter .. .

what i mean is wages . . . . difference of just +- 20%

also there has to be some clearance . . . meaning they can only trade a certain player on a certain time lets say after 5 weeks or so . . .

i dont know why you dont like it . . . its too obvious your not thinking if your just saying probably to cheating . . . if we set the rules clearly then we can only work on the rules.

or simply just putting it on the transfer market

anyways its just me , i think its a good thing.

It is too simple to trade between teams and make alliances against the others. Even if you will trade adequate or "weaker" player, he will be different and maybe just on the skill where you need. The other team can make things the same way.

..and you can trade and trade, this one will be better there and this one there, without any other expenses...

I think that this game have more other potential than to be switched into boring business manager.

I like the idea about supporting transactions between the teams in the division. Maybe it could be allowed for the loans or different things, I don't know, however direct trading is a step into a wrong direction.