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hi there,

in addition to the very useful points s.bock gave you, some more things to think about:

1.
i don't know about your financial status, but an investment in scouting might be interesting for you, because you probably won't finish with a very good record in your first season, so you will get a nice draftpick.

2.
be very careful with buying players. in my experience many new managers waste a lot of money on new players, because they focus on the wrong things, especially potential.
for you it might be a good idea to buy trainees with a potential from "role player" to "star". they will be pretty cheap, because in my opinion many managers overrate potential, but you will still be able to train them for at least one season (which i think is enough for your first group of trainees).

3.
as you are an experienced hattrick manager, this might be important:
on the stratigic level, buzzerbeater is very similiar to hattrick, i.e. focus on the long-term development of your team, especiallly training.
the game engine however works totally differnt than in hattrick. the teamratings give you a good understanding of the overall strength of the two teams that played, but they are not important for the calculation of the game result. who wins a game is in my opinion especially determined my the tactic, the effort and the individual matchups of the players. so it will sometimes be hard for a new player to understand game results, but you will get used to it :-D

4.
tactics:
very important, but incredibly difficult to understand for a new manager i guess. i would suggest, you read the rules and try to build on those information, but a real understanding of that part of the game will only come by experience.
if you ever want to discuss tactics for an upcoming match, feel free to send me a private message with your questions and ideas, because i think doing this publicly wouldn't be wise, because your opponent might read that.

5.
most important point:
enjoy the game and stay with it :-)
the scottish community sure could use more members.

Last edited by Daniel_1984 at 4/9/2009 5:41:12 PM

Thanks, Daniel! Very helpful!


1. After investing nothing before and $5k last week I have now started investing $10k per week. Will increasing that to $20k or $40k be a great benefit? Never having sen a draft I'm not sure what information I'll have to make my picks with. :/

2. Noted. :)

3. The think I love the most about HT is the long term strategy, so that suits me just fine!

4. The first few seasons will be a learning experience so I will read up on tactics and start playing around with different settings once I understand them a bit better. Thanks for the offer of 1 to 1 help, I might take you up on that at some point (not until I have read the rules a couple more times though as it is all still sinking in!).

5. Yep, it seems rather quiet here. :( I'll give the game a good shot, I have good feelings about it already so hopefully I'll get even more into it once I start understanding it all a bit better.


Ok, I'm off to prepare the troops for a likely drubbing at the hands of mikey9point's Blue Heaven...

Thanks again! :)

1. After investing nothing before and $5k last week I have now started investing $10k per week. Will increasing that to $20k or $40k be a great benefit? Never having sen a draft I'm not sure what information I'll have to make my picks with. :/

in my opinion, 10k per week is a good compromise, because it's not that much, but it gives you good information. if you don't know were else to spend your money, i think 20k would be ok, too. 40k seems to be too much to spend to me, though.

the draft always is a gamble. no matter how much you pay, you won't get all the information for every player. so you will need some luck to get information about the best players. in my experience usually there are at least like five very good players in the draft, so you will probably "discover" at least two or three of them. because it is possible, you will finish up with the worst record of the active teams (the inactive teams don't scout and choose their players to draft, so they will usually pick bad players), you will likely get one of the top five draftees with your first round pick, if you do some scouting.

Thanks, Daniel! Very helpful!


1. After investing nothing before and $5k last week I have now started investing $10k per week. Will increasing that to $20k or $40k be a great benefit? Never having sen a draft I'm not sure what information I'll have to make my picks with. :/

at the end of the season, you'll have a "new page", where you have all the informations about the draft. So at the moment, you wont see anything, you just pay fot that you'll have more information when the draft starts.

I hope nobody minds me asking another question or two in this thread? :)

1. I'm trying to work out how many minutes each player should play during the week. Obviously I want my trainees to play at least 48 mins to get their training (and conversely I don't want them to play much more than 48 mins as this training could go to another player). But what about non-trainee positions? The rules are a little vague when it comes to game shape. Is 48 mins ideal as well?

2. Most weeks there are 3 games, yes? I am currently training Inside Scoring on Centres and Power Forwards. Should I therefore have 3 trainees for each position?

3. How 'multi-skilled' are BB players? From the skill contributions on the help forum (3944.3) it looks like most positions benefit from most skills.

Hmm, I think that's all... for now at least!

Thanks again for helping this newbie out! ;)

1) Concerning the training position you're exactly right. For this positions and all the other, if you look at the game-shape, the best is, when your players plays around 48-65 minutes if you don't have a special doctor. If someone lays more than 70-80 minutes his game-shape goes down.

2) 3 games x 2 positions = 6 trainees. BUT that would mean that they all play exactly 48 minutes, which is real difficult for you ( f.e. someone gets foul-trouble). So normaly if 5 players get min. 48 minutes training, you allready did a good job.

3) They should be multi-skilled, but of course a Center needs more inside-defensive than a PG. So if you have 5 trainees for PF and C than just start with Inside Scoring, Rebounding, Inside Defensive after probably one season you can think about some weeks passing or something like that for them. But this is real difficult to organize, cause than a Center has to play as a PG... but that shouldn't be you're problem now.

Your trainees:

As I can see you have two good trainees for PF and C (Forrest and Fasoulas); if you buy new player have a look at the potential, but at the height, too! You bought one player as a PF, who is only 203cm heigh; that means that it will take longer time/training for him to learn inside-skills like inside-scoring.

Enough for today ;-) and... just ask if you have questions!

Thanks for the very detailed replies, with help as good as this I'll pick this game up in no time! :)

Heheh, was wondering why the 203cm player was so cheap! I read about how height effects training speed before I bought him, guess I need to adjust my idea of 'tall'. ;)

Roughly what height players should I be trying to get for PF & C as trainees?

1. 48 mins for game shape is the least. My trainees play 48 mins every week (when is possible without fouls, injuries and another problems) and their game shape are respectable or more.

2. Yes, you should have 3 trainees for position (without fouls, injuries and..)!

3. Many skills are important for BB players:
Point guard: driving, outside def, passing, handling, jump shot, jump range
Shooting guard: jump range, jumpe shot, outside def., driving, handling, passing
Small forward: Jump shot, inside shot, outside def., rebounding, inside def., jump range
Power forward: Inside shot, reboungind, inside def, jump shot, shot blocking
Center: inside shot, rebouding, inside def., shot blocking.
Rebounding and passing are important for the whole team.

The taller he is, the faster he will train in inside skills.. If I had to train PF or C I will stop at 208cm..

if possible even a bit taller.

but I think it's easier to get a taller player than a player with high potential; cause the most of the new managers just/ too much look at the potential.