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8573.4 in reply to 8573.2
Date: 11/29/2007 4:27:50 PM
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On that specific game my starter played 39 minutes. his backup only got the last two minutes of every period and all he did is miss one shot...

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8573.5 in reply to 8573.3
Date: 11/29/2007 4:33:51 PM
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Thanks my friend,
Your theory does explain what happened. My shooting guard had a terrible game (actually he usually plays terrible, which i don't know why. I've opened another thread (8467.1) about it but haven't got a decent answer yet), although his ratings are pretty good (relative to my country, which is only at the second season), he has Strong jump shot, respectable Jump range and average driving, but almost always suck!


Edited by yanivsag (11/29/2007 4:46:40 PM CET)

Last edited by yanivsag at 11/29/2007 4:46:40 PM

From: Huzzel

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8573.6 in reply to 8573.1
Date: 11/29/2007 4:42:14 PM
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I believe (I'm not sure though) it works this way.
Those matchup ratings are only an average number. So if the SG has an matchup rating of 80, he will score an average of 80 when taking 100 shots.

why do matchup ratings still differ from game to game even though its an average number? The matchup ratings show an average amount of scored points in a particular game. The rating considers offensiv flow, oppenents deffense, home court advantage etc.

lets make an exampel:
SG A convertes in this particular game 50% of his shoots => scores 100 points out of 100 shots (no three pointers to make calculation easier)
SG B convertes only 33% of his shoots => scores 66 points out of 100 shots

However there is a random factor in this game. If both of them take 4 shots per game, most often player A will score more points, thoug there is a (relatively high) chance that player B scores more points than A.
If both of them take 10 shoots, the chance of A scoring more is even higher, but in some games B will still score more.
So the more shoots they take, the more often these teams will play this way against each other, both players will tend to their own shooting percentage.

edit: now i have taken a look at your player and his stats. Sorry i dont have got a good explanation. his shooting percentage is very bad all season, his shooting skills are quit good, his driving skill is okay and his experience is okay. the only thing a can think of now, is your offensive flow. it could be better. however even considering the bad flow, the percentage is a lot worse than expected.



Edited by Huzzel (11/29/2007 4:55:01 PM CET)

Last edited by Huzzel at 11/29/2007 4:55:01 PM

From: yanivsag

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8573.8 in reply to 8573.6
Date: 11/29/2007 4:50:18 PM
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However there is a random factor in this game. If both of them take 4 shots per game, most often player A will score more points, thoug there is a (relatively high) chance that player B scores more points than A.
If both of them take 10 shoots, the chance of A scoring more is even higher, but in some games B will still score more.
So the more shoots they take, the more often these teams will play this way against each other, both players will tend to their own shooting percentage.


So what your'e saying is the same as what Your Imaginary Friend said? am I right? according to the game's condition he should have scored about 77 points but actually played much worse?

From: Huzzel

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8573.9 in reply to 8573.8
Date: 11/29/2007 4:58:15 PM
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So what your'e saying is the same as what Your Imaginary Friend said? am I right? according to the game's condition he should have scored about 77 points but actually played much worse?


thats right. sorry i thougt its the only a game he played like this. then it would have been a good explanation.
i have no idea why he is playing like this all season. sorry
Maybe your offensive flow, but still its a lot worse then I would expect from him.

Edited by Huzzel (11/29/2007 4:58:41 PM CET)

Edited by Huzzel (11/29/2007 5:01:19 PM CET)

Last edited by Huzzel at 11/29/2007 5:01:19 PM

From: yanivsag

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8573.10 in reply to 8573.9
Date: 11/29/2007 5:02:23 PM
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Yea, it beats me.
The other SG has quite the same ratings and plays much better.


Edited by yanivsag (11/29/2007 5:05:23 PM CET)

Last edited by yanivsag at 11/29/2007 5:05:23 PM

From: Huzzel

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8573.11 in reply to 8573.7
Date: 11/29/2007 5:39:53 PM
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sorry dont understand what your point is.

The SF is having bad game this season, he is having average games and last game he have had a very good game. thats pretty usual. Over the season he is producing average stats. thats exactly what i have tried to say.

Furthermore something went wrong with the lineup of the oppenent team. the starting Five SF did not start. Dont know what the other coach did wrong. maybe he will explain to us ;-)))
So i dont know how the matchups ratings were calculated. Were they calculated by the ratings of the normal SF or did the skills of the SG who played SF mostly count???

Edited by Huzzel (11/29/2007 5:44:21 PM CET)

Last edited by Huzzel at 11/29/2007 5:44:21 PM

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8573.12 in reply to 8573.11
Date: 11/29/2007 6:54:12 PM
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Match up ratings can't be anything to do with shooting, surely? I have Centers who have scored over 100 in the match-up ratings.

I think it is calculated on match ratings alone (would make sense, as this would include all players playing in that position).

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Date: 12/1/2007 5:16:31 PM
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Remember, Matchup Ratings are just that: a comparison of the offensive skills of your player to the defensive skills of your opponent's player at that position. Since the defensive skills of each of your opponents will vary each week, so will the matchup ratings.

It is a function of both your players offensive and your opponents defense.