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I'm a Lions and Swans fan and hoping that between the two there is a good season. Probably more so the Swans than the Lions.

yeah but north and port dont have the 1 thing Freo do : Ross Lyon...

That man could coach me to sleep. I swear to god if he ever coaches the Crows I'm taking a pillow to the games, preferably to smother myself with.

I agree. He is a complete tossbag.

Collingwood will be the big losers this year.

Everyone always said they had a great game plan, well coached etc. Now they've lost just about the whole coaching panel, they will go south very quickly.

Not great depth and with two season enders already and a few big other injury clouds, they will be luck to make finals.

Improvers
Richmond - Sooner or later they will start to smash teams.
Adelaide - I'm a believer that last year was an anomoly. They have a good deep list, just need to get more out of their forwards.
Hawks - Legit title favourites.
Freo- Have to improve with a better coach and hopefully more luck with injuries.

Sliders
Collingwood - No depth, injuries, loss of aura.
St Kilda - Big names who are past their best.
Bulldogs - Young talent is too green. Not enough prime movers. Rebuilding.
Essendon - Their list sucks. Too thin in the midfield. Too many injuries in the key posts. I think the honeymoon is over for Hirdy.

Ladder prediction
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Hawks
Eagles - Wouldnt want another good player out for the year though.
Cats
Blues
Crows
Freo
Tigers
Magpies
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Kangaroos
Demons
Swans
Saints
Bulldogs
Bombers
Lions
Suns - Will improve a lot, but still wont win more than 6. Will win a flag in 2014-2016 though.
Port
GWS

Anyone who thinks collingwood will finish any lower than 3rd is kidding themselves they lost a couple of players and all of a sudden they have no depth, that was one of there strengths last year. As for the coach, Malthouse was great but has anyone stopped to think maybe Buckley knows a little himself and that's why they busted their arses at collingwood to make sure he didnt go anywhere else.

And would everyone get off the crows they stink. Pre season form, please

Hawks
Pies
Blues
Eagles
Cats
After that it doesn't matter

Last edited by Kanga at 3/13/2012 2:41:56 AM

Nothing Fishy here. We (yes my cards are on the table) lose Macaffer who was injured then couldn't get a game last year and Krakeour who can be replaced in the forward pocket and we are on the slide. The Crows have some talent but no depth and will be mid-range.

Dont forget Port Adelaide belted Geelong by 84 points at AAMI Stadium in a practice match last March. At 5pm on Grand Final day, the Cats held the premiership cup aloft while the Power narrowly avoided winning the wooden spoon.

It's pre-season which rates only one level higher than a scrimmage in our game.

It's pre-season which rates only one level higher than a scrimmage in our game.

It only rates one level higher, because unlike our scrimmages, they actually make money out of them :D

The afl would be about the only league in the world, where they have a pre-season comp and a trophy... what a wank..

scrap the pre-season and extend the season so they can find some way of making the draw somewhat fair as opposed to the joke it is now.

I'd like to know from the Collingwood believers how they think Collingwood will improve this season. Who are the young players that will carry them back to the top? Guys like O'Bruen, Maxwell, Reid etchave been exposed as average players only who all had a good season at the same time. One on one they are all weak defenders. People even talked Dawes up as a great player. He's just average and certainly behind somebody like Podsiadly.

Why are they going to fall though - remembering that they did make the grand final last year after all...?

They've lost two players for the season yes, but they were hardly vital players.

Its easy to forget that the likes of Pendelbury, Thomas and co are still pretty young, and may have improvement left in them. And they don't really have and super important 30+ yo players, aside from Jolly.

The jury is out on Buckley though - I'm not convinced by this whole he was a superstar player and captain at our club, so lets bring him back as a coach trend that seems to be going on with Buckley, Hird and Voss. Especially not when you have a coach as proven as Malthouse already there.

I'd still back them for top 4 pretty comfortably though. As much as I would really really like to see them fail.

Malthouse has a habit of getting far more out of a list than is really there. It's a huge loss.

There's been a recent trend of players getting straight into coaching at their old club after retiring (Hird, Voss, Buckley) and I'm really not convinced by it. Playing is not the same as coaching and your experiences as a player, whilst very valuable as a coach, are not the be all and end all. These guys should be going away and learning their craft as an assistant for 5 or so seasons, then entering head coaching. It's going to end badly for probably two out of those three, I think. Law of averages says one will strike it lucky :P

As for the Crows - I've been saying this way before the pre-season. We have had a talented list for a while, but our coaching was outdated and we were very soft. The training etc has been very different this season under a new coach, and they've looked the best they have for years. We won't win a flag, but write us off as finals contenders at your peril :P