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i think what jeff pointed out here is even more important to know now than the promotion rules for this year. if his second option will be used you can just go all-in this season and tank in league 3 to build arena and save some money. it would be a huge letdown for those who decided to "start slow"

Exactly. Demoting D3 teams will be replaced by D4 teams using our normal promotion strategy (not the one we are using this season, which is a D6 on steroids). It will be a combination of promoting league champions and top league ranked teams (ranked the same way we rank bot promotion). So, in practice, of 256 teams in D3, we will have 128 empty spots in D3 (64 will promote, 64 will demote to D4). We will fill those spots with league champions (not conference champions like the first season!) from D4 and with other teams by rank (the same ranking order as explained before). The number of league champions will be 64-80, maybe even a bit more, but not more than 128, that's for sure.

(can't recall if Spain and Italy had humans in D6)

I started in D6 XD

Marin,

Is it possible to create a promotion ranking based on the factors other than winning your conference in the playoffs. This would give teams a sense of how close or far they are from potentially promoting. Otherwise we're just guessing.

(can't recall if Spain and Italy had humans in D6)

I started in D6 XD

Legitimately started from the bottom of the bottom. Respect.

Thx a lot for the infos. No more mistery now.

OK, I guess it's time we clear this up. Promotion will work like this:
1. Conference champions (teams that reach the league finals) automatically promote (circa 80 leagues * 2 = 160 teams)
2. this leaves 256 - circa 160 = circa 96 spots to be filled by these criteria (in order)
- conference rank
- wins
- forfeits
- point difference
- points made

This means, in practice, that a the top ranked, non-conference champion teams are all mixed up together and the top ranked ones will be promoted. This, of course, means that some leagues may have only 2 promoting teams, other ones may have 4 or 5 or even more promoting teams!

However, we still reserve the right to change this if we think of a better promotion strategy, but basically this is the option which is probably going to be used.

Well this is kinda bad. Even with a very high win ratio but just third place in a Conference (possible #3 in the whole league overall) can only promote when advancing to the final.

Even if all #1 placed teams advance to the final, there are still just about 96 teams able to promote, means about 1,5 per league. So maybe both #2 ranked team may promote, but definatly no #3.
So even with a Win Ratio of 19:3 (same as #2 ranked but worse point difference) and and an overpowered opponent in the conference final there wont be a chance to promote. I don't think this is a good idea.

I would like to have "conference rank" replaced with "league rank" or removed at all, so there is at least a slight chance for a #3 placed team.

for example all conference winners are #1 and #2 in the league overall, which means all #3 may promote and very few #4 in the league overall.
Without a "league rank" and just going with "win ratio" there is a even bigger chance for good #3 placed (conference) teams to promote.


Edit: I thought of this because we have such standing in our Austrian Bundesliga (http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/1235/overview.aspx)
If this was an Utopian league i would be so angry if i can't promote as #3 in the blue group.


Last edited by TKOK at 5/17/2014 5:54:45 PM