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From: Scoresby

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Date: 10/31/2014 2:04:42 PM
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OK, good to know. Maybe I was just very unlucky last season. That, plus I was probably training slightly older players vs. the 18-21 yr-olds I'm training now. Lots of variables.

From: Mr. Glass

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Date: 10/31/2014 2:25:16 PM
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I said for starting teams 1st season. Tell them how to build arena. tell them how to train players. 1st season correctly.

This is the same as mother and father telling a son/daughter how to pay bills/ can give them a car and small apartment once they find a job. It doesn't devalue their future learning or gaining process. The parent has motivated them showed them care to start.

It much better than brash way of your 18yrs old now hit the door. Your on your own. Go to library and find out. Go find a job don't beg me. Then when see their kid holding sign saying "help me god bless". They don't want any of the blame the child is lazyor going the wrong way in life, they don't any of the blame. put them down with do I have to tell you everything.? learning from the streets is not always correct.

Motivation come proper showing things to someone at least once. BB can do more. explain better. Yes there is a forums, but at same time if they don't understand , then they don't understand. Some has to explain it correctly?? why not BB

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 10/31/2014 2:32:26 PM

From: Phyr

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264412.44 in reply to 264412.41
Date: 10/31/2014 6:26:16 PM
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How to play the game stuff has to come from the community not the BBs. I figured out everything about how to play bb after reading the game manual by 1) following the USA offsite and BB forums and 2) google search site:buzzerbeater.com 3) asking questions if i couldn't find the answer.

Not that hard. This is a great community willing to share their thoughts and opinions.

From: Mr. Glass

To: Phyr
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Date: 11/1/2014 9:46:42 PM
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And I respect that approach 100%.. no issue there. At the time same if some things are unknown to this day. 7-8 years . 27-28 seasons strong's . Then whats wrong with BB stepping up and telling it??

Some games for this game will never be find out on BB. Same issue from my example with chess. The starting chess master and creators came out and told and expanded the game. The creator made starting manual as well same as BB, it didn't tell all the ways of play starting , only starting base., Then a chess master came out and told things with permission of the creator on differ style of play. Which none knew how do properly but had a clue of. In small those ways were not popular. Kind of like running 2-3 zone and Princeton on BB its not popular just good way to lose. he told how to make these unpopular chess ways strong. A lot BB manager including myself have no idea how merge these together for anything but a lost game, in my opinion.


Back to my points. It expanded the game of chess. My point in small is why not expand BB in the same fashion. training and all that for certain tactics is a mystery. I'm saying not tell it all like a interview with Barbra Walters, No... Im saying be more clear , stop all scribble scrabble., be more up front , a manual don't mean anything. Until they show some success with certain tactics, it still a very great issue. Yes someone had to come out and tell it. It should not take 10-100 yrs and drastic Ge changes to do so. All of that could have been very avoided with just telling things.

Its does not hurt the game it expands the market. Im not being rude. I saw won B3 atleast 3 times . where is his guide to play this or that that unpopular. Where is his insight on this matter.?


Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/1/2014 10:06:58 PM

From: Mr. Glass

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Date: 11/1/2014 10:15:15 PM
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I didn't say out right tell them what to do.. I said point them in the right direction, make sure they have proper set up to start. not baby sit them for their whole BB career. Also clear up the confusion in a lot areas. As one member pointed out.

Its a bit silly to see that kind of confusion.

From: Mr. Glass

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Date: 11/2/2014 10:43:58 AM
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you misread that badly.. it says the optimal strategy is still largely unknown, in small every playing way has not been found. same as for bb

The games are the same built on tactics an most unknown .Chess was made by a Russian or German man.. the 1st few masters were European decent, they wrote books.

Not hard to find books on chess differ playing style for tactics. Writing by world champions.

show me some BB? my point.

BB need to more transparent with player training and etc. You cant just train players to the full moon and expect success.. you training to the tactics. If a player cant play more than one tactic or 1 defense what good is he.. That what you have today on BB. same in chess in some playing stlyles..

The big difference is people wrote book in chess. Starting master 's

From: Mr. Glass

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Date: 11/2/2014 1:48:38 PM
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The point is in small, you can have all training forums in the world But if the manager don't whats he looking at? what does it do. It will do him no good to have him and do the training.

I know what a pawn can do in chess and it considered the weakest piece. then theres tactic's based in chess for the pawn to be the strongest aspect in the playing way. If BB has to label players to the skill for tactic, of what they can play well or what form of player he is.,then so be. It would make it much easier for the manager to know what he buying/ and building him, early training building for the market will just get better etc.. Training builds need to better explained. Not a guessing game.. Its help the market.


If player is all 9's. I cant just sit here and say ok he's well-rounded ,he can play it it all. Or say ok build on him the defensive side till you cant no more,just because the other guy cant score it will come down to free throws and crap like that because you have no offense in him. That not explaining any tactical advantage but only skill full. I havent express what kind of tactical player he has or is.

In certain tactic the pf don't need 17 id and od.. He may perform better as a offensive mind or passing the ball in the offensive choosen which boost up game flow? say for example push the ball. You can play that certain player from the bench because you know who you have in playing style.. If we just build him to the basic way, he will never be effective in some tactic's. I Understand freedom of choice and selection and mind.

A same time. A lot are just thinking one way. Training is the key right? But alot cant tell who they have in tactical way in their teams. I will put like this and leave it be , a non traditional player will always be better than a traditional player. The manager alone is going to be only guy to know how to play him and will keep him. You really cant sell that today non traditional players. Because he not built to the status Qou. But that player better is indeed tactically better.

Labeling them as Low post player or princeton player has not set the game back or gave away the game engine nor advantages to anyone... It just helped the build player diversity in the market.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 11/2/2014 2:10:13 PM

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