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Let's look at this a little more closely ...

...crushing the cheaters should include never letting BB be played from that same computer again. Making a new account will do the cheater no good in that case.

Granted that would not deter all cheating, but it would curb at least 80% of it.

You also need to consider that people have access to multiple computers and multiple physical addresses.

So they would need to block a second computer, maybe more, in another 10% of the cases.

Given the technology anyone can fake anything on the internet. THey can make it look like their one computer is 100 different computers in 100 different countries... Identifying where a sign in is coming from is extremely difficult if the person deliberately obscures themself.

And this level of sophistication applies to maybe 1-2% of the cheating in BB, if that.

These three categories alone account for an estimated 92% of BB cheating, with an additional 8% unspecified. So they can easily reduce cheating by around 90-98%, depending on what goes on in the unspecified category.

This game will be more realistic, fun, fair, legitimate etc. if they considered it an issue.

I wonder what their response would be if the players who don't cheat figured out that allowing cheating as they do amounts to a fraud against the people playing the game fairly, and the basis for a refund. Maybe stopping cheating would be taken a little more seriously.

They do ban the accounts and IP addresses when they catch them.

That is all I ask.
And that will cover 80-90% of the cheating.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 10/9/2015 7:33:31 PM

They do ban the accounts and IP addresses when they catch them.

That is all I ask.
And that will cover 80-90% of the cheating.

You mean everyone using public proxies should be ban too ?
That also mean someone banned with a dynamic IP should inconvenience other clients of the same ISP ?

I don't think they use this. There would have too much people blocked without reason.

About "cheating", I don't really get it.
- Farm team exist since almost 20 seasons (I think it's about that) and aren't forbidden by rules. French community wished it was but, then, adapted to the fact it's not. It's only 10 seasons, or so, our community adapted to make the best possible roster of NT. So I think you will see that in a lot of other countries, as we failed to get a NT title until now. By the way I send you back to the thread where I was saying training is too expensive. When you try to play first part of the league, you can't afford a L7 coach. I have only a L4 coach on my side and it's frustrating because I love to train !
- If there is a French cheater playing the BBB (if I followed you correctly), just report it, no ? As far as I know French GM and Perpete, they don't like cheater at all.

Just my 2 cents :p

And as long as you all make fun of cheating in threads like this one, you are part of the problem. Congratulations.

Indeed, it's impossible. But, it seems you are only focused on IP address.
There are other way to find out. And, to quote Perpete, cheaters always make mistake one day on another !

They are catching managers regularly, without saying much. When I hear about it, it's often because it's an active member of the community since 5-10 seasons. It's sad to see some people have no shame. And, in my opinion, it would be great to have more information from BB/GM about this.

I think it's the actual system which is to blame because it makes it so difficult for competitive team to train. That's why I think you chase after the wrong rabbit, but it's just my opinion ;)

As you talk about France NT, I feel obligated to say a word, as I am very implicated in its development. I know that you don't focus specifically on France, you just gave some examples to add arguments to your ideas.

I can assure you there is no illegal farms for France NT. We have some farms, that's true, I don't deny it, but they are all legal. Some managers don't care to be competitive, their only pleasure is to train and to make their players reaching the NT.

There are different ways of playing this game. You can have different objectives according to your motivation, free time...etc... Some people want to win B3, some just care about training ...etc... For example, personnally, I spend a lot of time on BB but I really don't care about my personal teams. All I care is training and developing the NT.