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277612.40 in reply to 277612.38
Date: 2/26/2016 9:48:34 AM
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Guess we haven't seen higher PA or HA and therefore no change in how the game seems to work.
I'll tell you this: I had 65 Passing in my starting 5 last season. It helps, but it's nowhere near enough to be able to run outside offenses and trump OD with limited shooting. Shooting is also required which leads to the real problem: the salary and potential required to build players with high PA, high OD (which by default means relatively high DR/HA) and high JR.


Salary, potential, and time to train that JR. I think honestly that, as much as anything, makes it hard, because you essentially have to add it on top of the training that you might do for a LI-focused guard, and the amount of time it would take to get the JR from starting levels to high levels is quite significant indeed. But I think I've beaten that horse into glue already.

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277612.41 in reply to 277612.40
Date: 2/26/2016 10:08:09 AM
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well the fact is training JR is very likely much faster than training IS. The problem is that you can't do without OD and it's not wise to do without PA. So if you have a guy with 20 IS like Mordor's guy instead of 20 JR you end up having a very salary efficient player. 20 JR on the other hand will force you to pay a huge salary and, unless you hold back OD/PA, it's not even achievable unless you have a HoF potential.

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277612.46 in reply to 277612.43
Date: 2/27/2016 8:21:29 PM
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Just out of curiosity, based on my experiences, I wonder if you ever noticed either that your guys shot better percentages when guarded as opposed to uncontested shots, or if you saw more than a couple of games where your players had high PP100 predictions that they massively underperformed (e.g., 25% shooting or less on a 90+ PP100)?

Unfortunately, I don't have that information for you. My days of watching games live and in depth box score analysis are long gone. That said, if there are inquisitive minds out there that want to use my team as a case study I have no problem with privately supplying them with the skills of my players.


I might at some point in the future. I'm currently enjoying one of the patented Princeton half-quarter funks (which shouldn't be a surprise tonight, since my team should be outmatched, but I think if I looked back at all my Princeton games, I could probably find a six minute stretch where I score 2 or fewer points at least one game in four).

From: minde

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277612.47 in reply to 277612.46
Date: 2/29/2016 8:33:41 AM
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Just out of curiosity, based on my experiences, I wonder if you ever noticed either that your guys shot better percentages when guarded as opposed to uncontested shots, or if you saw more than a couple of games where your players had high PP100 predictions that they massively underperformed (e.g., 25% shooting or less on a 90+ PP100)?

If you are interested, I can provide some data from my team on that matter.. Since 29th season I had three quite decent shooters on my team, OS team rating was about 13, flow around 10.. So I made some analysis..
Season 29:
Open shots: Scored 31, missed 43, so, 31/74=42%
Defended shots: Scored 65, missed 86, so, 65/151=43%
Season 30:
Open:17/48=35%
Def:76/162=47%
Season 30 (something happened):
Open:33/62=53%
Def:58/125=46%
Season 31:
Open:18/40=45%
Def:55/116=47%
These taken three point shots are only of those 3 players, when they played motion or RnG, mostly at pg/sg positions.. So they managed to shoot better against defenders than open..

Last edited by minde at 3/1/2016 3:18:24 AM

From: Knecht

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277612.49 in reply to 277612.47
Date: 2/29/2016 9:52:15 AM
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I can't draw any conclusions from those stats, other than that variance is helluva messing with us.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: minde

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277612.50 in reply to 277612.48
Date: 3/1/2016 1:42:21 AM
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These 3 players all played in my team, yes.. if you are asking, if they were playing against the same teams, I don't know, I have to check that.. At least the level of competition was more or less the same through those four seasons.. And sorry, I couldn't understand the second sentence..

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