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Date: 9/29/2010 5:17:03 AM
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That's what I was asking, but it looks like you are only half right. Josef Ka is about to figure out the formula for DMI, meaning that it isn't random.


@GM-JosefKa- sweet. No need for further data?


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Date: 9/29/2010 5:28:20 AM
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Of course DMI is not random. Just look at a player (<30 years) who's GS is 9 from week to week and he's not getting any training: his DMI will slightly decrease from week to week - but this only comes from decreases in stamina (aprox. -0 - -500 per week in DMI). His DMI will never rise without training!

All other differences in DMI come from sublevels of GS. GS itself is calculated with a random factor. That's why DMI seems to be random.

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Date: 9/29/2010 5:31:29 AM
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I don't think you are correct about DMI rising without training. If a player's gs goes up, so will his DMI.

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That's why he added GS 9 in his example. Afaik there are no sublevels in a game shape of 9 so as long as it's at 9, only a change of skills (in this case the decreasing staminia) will change the DMI.

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My eyes glossed right over that minor point. Oops, and thanks for setting me straight.

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Date: 10/5/2010 5:03:37 PM
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That's what I was asking, but it looks like you are only half right. Josef Ka is about to figure out the formula for DMI, meaning that it isn't random.

Random to the figure of Gameshape, but not to its sub levels. I have said for a very long time that I believe sublevels of Gameshape are heavily related to the outcome of DMI... In fact im pretty sure you were one of the people who refused to entertain the idea that DMI wasn't totally random figure...

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Date: 10/5/2010 5:30:48 PM
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Afaik there are no sublevels in a game shape of 9 so as long as it's at 9, only a change of skills (in this case the decreasing staminia) will change the DMI.

That is not correct. There is a lower variation in range between projected sub levels at GS 9, but they do exist...

I have a player who has a starting salary of $5011. He has had 10 pops in skills and a projected (and the calculator underquotes by up to 10%) salary of $6810. His DMI this week with GS 9 is 54300... If there was no sublevel it would be around 65000.

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Date: 10/5/2010 6:13:38 PM
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Afaik there are no sublevels in a game shape of 9 so as long as it's at 9, only a change of skills (in this case the decreasing staminia) will change the DMI.

That is not correct. There is a lower variation in range between projected sub levels at GS 9, but they do exist...

I have a player who has a starting salary of $5011. He has had 10 pops in skills and a projected (and the calculator underquotes by up to 10%) salary of $6810. His DMI this week with GS 9 is 54300... If there was no sublevel it would be around 65000.


I'm pretty sure there's no sublevels at proficient gameshape as well. What is this player's stamina and free throw ratings? These ratings do not factor into salary calculations, but they do factor noticeably into DMI calculations.

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Date: 10/5/2010 7:49:26 PM
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Atrocious and proficient... Are you sure the 2 have such a dramatic effect?

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Atrocious and proficient... Are you sure the 2 have such a dramatic effect?


Atrocious stamina will drop DMI to closer to 9 times the salary when at proficient than to 10 times the salary.

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Date: 10/5/2010 11:18:58 PM
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But you said that stamina and free throws were a factor?

Dally Stacker (14844577) Power Forward
Weekly salary: $ 4 439
DMI: 77700
Age: 19
Height: 6'7" / 201 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: proficient
Jump Shot: average Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: awful Handling: average
Driving: strong Passing: average
Inside Shot: strong Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: average

This players projected salary is $9512. Considering his DMI is 77700, he is considerably lower than 9 times. Even if both his stamina and free throws were at atrocious that would be well under what you have stated the ratio to be. If there is no sublevels in proficient gameshape then this players DMI would be over 85000, since it is not surely there is sublevels of proficient gameshape...

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