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how often do you rotate your training? I trained jump shots for wingmen for two weeks now (I had a level 1 trainer last week, a level 3 this week), and have seen a few pops in jump range and jump shot. One of my wingmen has great jump range but very pathetic jump shot. Should I wait until he pops a level before rotating to pressure training or driving or something?

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how often do you rotate your training? I trained jump shots for wingmen for two weeks now (I had a level 1 trainer last week, a level 3 this week), and have seen a few pops in jump range and jump shot. One of my wingmen has great jump range but very pathetic jump shot. Should I wait until he pops a level before rotating to pressure training or driving or something?

I started off with relatively balanced trainees. I did each type of training (for inside guys) for two weeks at a time, not worrying about pops. They're still getting the training, and you're going to hold on to them for a little bit, so a visible level change isn't really a priority right now.

Unless your guys are really unbalanced with their skills, I'd shoot for a good rotation of training regimes. And I'd get as high level a trainer as you can afford on your budget.

dhoff-I notice you train shot blocking which, frankly, I am trying to avoid.

Does the rest of the PF/C training slow down if shot blocking does not keep relative pace?

dhoff-I notice you train shot blocking which, frankly, I am trying to avoid.

Does the rest of the PF/C training slow down if shot blocking does not keep relative pace?

To be honest, I don't know. I actually haven't completely followed through with what I wrote - I started off trying to balance things, but as time has gone on, I've placed more of an emphasis on inside scoring and rebounding. This is mostly due to do with the fact that a number of teams in my league have strong outside games, so cranking up inside defense and shotblocking won't help me as much against them as cranking up my team's ability to score inside and grab boards.

I know there has been some noise in global about how shotblocking is or isn't a useful skill and how it contributes to salary. I have only skimmed the conversations, so I don't know what the consensus is (if there is one).

I also don't know the SB level affects the training speed of other skills - I doubt anyone has strong evidence one way or the other, mainly due to the fact that there are quite a few variables to control for (height, sublevels, the impact of other skills), training speeds were changed a little under a year ago, and then with the new staff system, trainer levels are now different.

(Finally, for what it's worth, I've recently transitioned somewhat from the C/PF training business to work on SFs instead.)

ah, that's right, each training has an impact on a variety of other skills to a lesser degree, yeah?

So having done a couple weeks of outside shooting, I could switch to pressure training to up their defense, then go to pressure, and then go to maybe one on one or passing?

I've just noticed that not all training areas will allow for me to focus on just wingmen :/ Oh well, I'll be creative :)

Do you really 'let coach decide'?

I always play 'Strictly Follow Depth Chart' - I find you get much better control of training minutes.

I'm curious to learn what others stick to. Surely we all know our players better than the coach? Do you find you end up with accurate numbers this way?

ah, that's right, each training has an impact on a variety of other skills to a lesser degree, yeah?

Well, there are two things going on.

1. Most training regimes improve a couple skills - for instance, jump shot training will improve a player's jump shot, jump range, handling, and driving. (The speeds differ widely.) An unofficial list, with speculative speeds, is in (381.1).

2. Being good at some skills will help a player train more quickly in complementary skills. (See paragraph 6 in [link=BBWeb/rules.aspx?nav=Training].)

I think you're talking about #1, and I was talking more about #2.

So having done a couple weeks of outside shooting, I could switch to pressure training to up their defense, then go to pressure, and then go to maybe one on one or passing?

Yeah, I think that would be good. As you noted, you need to pay a little attention to which positions you need to have your trainees in, but otherwise, that's a good approach as you get started.

Do you really 'let coach decide'?

I always play 'Strictly Follow Depth Chart' - I find you get much better control of training minutes.

I'm curious to learn what others stick to. Surely we all know our players better than the coach? Do you find you end up with accurate numbers this way?

I do. I started out with it and figured out how to balance training minutes pretty well, and so I've stuck with it. As I wrote, I might use SFDC if I need to ensure someone gets all of the playing time in a scrimmage or something, but otherwise, I haven't had problems.

Granted, I have pretty good balance between my starters and backups in most of my positions. If I start player A over player B in one league game and then start player B over player A in the second game, I quite often wind up with each player getting at least ~45 minutes.

I can see now why training C/PF is easier for newer users :) More training regimes that focus directly on those positions!

Switching to a skills vs tactics question: at what point is it good to decide which way to play the ball (outside focus or inside focus)? What are the criteria for deciding? Is it better to play normal focus if there really isn't a significant advantage one way or the other? And finally, how do I evaluate what tactics to use against an opponent?