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224468.404 in reply to 224468.400
Date: 9/26/2012 10:32:41 AM
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My tip is that Vio will do it at the last minute in this group to avoid relegation.


You will be hoping I don't as you're currently the no.1 candidate to relegate if I do. I can assure you though, it won't be happening. ;-)

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224468.405 in reply to 224468.400
Date: 9/26/2012 1:57:37 PM
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Dont expect much from me for this season

No one is really trying to win, just trying to stay afloat.

As soon as someone starts spending, everyone else does.


As he posts this he snares for 850k a 108k a week Power Forward

From: yodabig

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224468.406 in reply to 224468.400
Date: 9/26/2012 6:30:18 PM
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Well I am not a long timer so maybe I am not a typical ABBL manager but I can say last season when I promoted I was in debt. While I was in debt I did have a carefully crafted team which included two unique forwards Lawrance and SPerbert who cost me about $5 million to buy but who played far better than their salaries suggested.

I also had two youngish trainees Barton (24) and Kumar (22) but they were good enough to play in games and not cause an automatic loss. I trained them every week last season while competing hard and still managed to get the third best record in the ABBL and made the semi-finals where Whitebeard beat me. However part of the reason I was able to achieve that is exactly because of what you said. Several teams were not trying very hard like WA IS A DUMP, Baxter Bogans, Black Label Society and more.

At the end of the season there was quite a buy up some like Koopasaurus buying up massivly on the final weekend.

Certainly Lewisham Wombats and Whitebeard were trying to win but there was a bit of a gap between them and the next teams like Aussie Pride, Billy Hoyles Boys and me.

This season with money in the bank, more advanced trainees and a great new center who was a massive upgrade on the one that took me to third best record last seasons I actually thought I would be competing. But with most playing normal or crunch time against me and two two point losses I found myself in the relegation zone precicely because people were competing. Some of them were the new teams Slam ! and Urmammas but also older teams like Koopasaurus saw that this was going to be a tough season. I would agree though that there is more competition to avoid 7th than to get to 2nd but that is partially due to the dominance of Whitebeard whose teams seems virtually unbeatable. Urmammas crunched him and still lost by a lot.

This season I tried very hard to get a young Aussie trainee. I wanted an 18 year old MVP, maybe I was too choosy but despite bookmarking all of them every week and bidding son several I never could get one and ended up getting a 21 year old superstar instead. I was certainly willing to train a young Aussie.

Part of all of this problem is the structure. If you win division II you get a million dollars, and a much improved income for all of the next season so teams can go all in and they get bailed out. There is no money bonus for winning the ABBL. So if you went all in to win and ended up with a massive debt in the ABBL the way teams like hopelessly addicted and I did to get out of Division II you would be in huge trouble the following season and maybe looking at getting relegated. Teams have to ask themselves is it worth the risk? In division II it is worth the risk because the reward is massive. In the ABBL there is no financial reward so while the status is priceless you risk massive damage to your team.

I will certainly be willing to take the risk when the time is right, Koopasaurus already has with his Radford team, Urmammas and Slam ! seem to have no fear. Unfortunately all four of us are on the Whitebeard side. On the Wombats (Big 8) side things look wide open. Current leader Bell Park SuperCats is three games and 450 PD behind Whitebeard. Doesn't mean things will end up like that but certainly there is an opportunity in the Big 8 to make a move.

Long ramble I know, sorry if it is too long.

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224468.407 in reply to 224468.405
Date: 9/26/2012 8:32:39 PM
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let the games (buy ups) begin! it's going to be interesting to see what everyones moves are as we move towards the business end of the season!

I also reckon Vio will buy up and save himself from relegation - c'mon Vio you know you want to ... you don't want to head back to div 3 do you? :) plus who is going to do pants down next season! :)

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224468.408 in reply to 224468.403
Date: 9/26/2012 9:00:39 PM
Hadders Heros
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I would not say needlessly occupying space. Its great to stay in ABBL without winning. You get larger crowds, kudos and economy overall. Plus you know how to stay on top constantly.

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224468.409 in reply to 224468.405
Date: 9/26/2012 9:10:06 PM
Hadders Heros
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thats replacing a 35 year old player, hardly a monster

From: Hadders

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224468.410 in reply to 224468.407
Date: 9/26/2012 9:21:08 PM
Hadders Heros
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Agreed,

As much as i love Vio and have met the sexy beast in person, i know he is aware of the problems of going down to div III

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224468.411 in reply to 224468.410
Date: 9/26/2012 11:02:52 PM
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i think vios is tanking right now and if he decided to buy up ill be a last minute decision :)

couldnt you wait till end of next week to "replace your oldy"? lol 108k pf for a replacement :(

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224468.412 in reply to 224468.411
Date: 9/27/2012 12:02:52 AM
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Vios is tanking, Vios is sexy and Vios will be going to Div III next season! I have to stick to my guns now just out of principle as you all seem to think I'm a guarantee to backflip...

The Knowledge that if I did decide to buy up, would mean that my old pal Hads would be the one who suffers and I can't have that. It also appears he's taking measures of his own to avoid such an thing from occurring.

From: akuma

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224468.413 in reply to 224468.412
Date: 9/27/2012 12:27:33 AM
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you could still catch up to razorbacks if you buy up now :)

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224468.414 in reply to 224468.412
Date: 9/27/2012 1:00:47 AM
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I know the trolls will jump on me if I tell anyone to tank but I am very happy with my decision to tank season 18. I made a fortune, bought two young key players for my team, could train like a demon and was well set up to bounce right back to the ABBL. I don't like the idea of tanking that much but if the game is set up for it and it isn't hurting anyone else I can't see the problem. It isn't unrealistic either. OKC did it in the NBA and looking at every move Orlando is making right now all I can see is they are trying to make their team as bad as possible for a season or two.

So if ViOlated sticks to his plans I am sure that such a great manager will be able to achieve his goals whatever they may be. As far as I know there have been a couple of teams that tanked division II, then won division III and division II championships back to back on the basis of that one season of big money.

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