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From: SplitJ
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161952.41 in reply to 161952.40
Date: 10/23/2010 3:08:12 AM
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shotblocking is not to block the attacker's every shot but to make him think that you might block every shot.

bill russell

so I believe Shot block can make a player change his natural angle, get in his face, make him take an altered shot with less chance of going in and that also depends on the level you face. if a player have great driving and handles, you cant even get close enough to block his shot so there no point if you dont have ID and maybe even OD since OD is suppose to be perimeter defense so equal on ball defense. if you cant even stay in front of your man how are you going to block his shot?

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161952.42 in reply to 161952.41
Date: 10/23/2010 3:38:16 AM
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i have a feeling it has more to do with tactics, and match ups, and league skill
say if you center has high shot blocking but the opposing team is playing RnG and the opposing C only takes 5 shots in the game just because your a high level blocker doesn't mean ur gonna block every attempt he makes
and since the game engine tends to go for the more favorable match up, maybe your shot blocker is affecting the game by making the opposing center attempt less shots because the match-up isn't as favorable for him

and also the over all competitions skill level has to factor in
i mean when us see a us div I player with super high JS and good JR but he is going against elite defenders every night and only averaging 14 pts per game etc etc. maybe his opponents on average have a really high skill level for IS and that counters the over all effectiveness of shot blocking

drop that guy down to Div V and i bet he averages ten a game lol

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161952.43 in reply to 161952.23
Date: 10/23/2010 4:44:05 AM
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i would bet that weker def increase the number of blocks


It could explain why guards tend to have good blocked shots avg.

From: GWgw
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161952.44 in reply to 161952.43
Date: 10/23/2010 3:02:06 PM
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I could see it being something like ID corresponds to defence against his own man, while SB may help improve the defence of his teammates (at least equivalently in the game engine). I would be really curious to know how a high SB C/PF improves the overall team inside defence in the game ratings.

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161952.45 in reply to 161952.41
Date: 10/23/2010 3:05:51 PM
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shotblocking is not to block the attacker's every shot but to make him think that you might block every shot. :P

bill russell

so I believe Shot block can make a player change his natural angle, get in his face, make him take an altered shot with less chance of going in and that also depends on the level you face. if a player have great driving and handles, you cant even get close enough to block his shot so there no point if you dont have ID and maybe even OD since OD is suppose to be perimeter defense so equal on ball defense. if you cant even stay in front of your man how are you going to block his shot?


I believe Shot Blocking to be almost equally important to ID and OD. I hire players on the assumtion that Shotblocking contributes to OD and ID skills as an added skill (B-Skill) in a way such as 3 levels of Shotblocking equal one level of ID/OD.

Example: ID 10 / OD 10 / SB 6 equals ID 12 / OD 12 / SB 0

If it works somehow this way then SB is very efficient in terms of salary and worth looking at. I do not expect SB to produce numerous blocks.

No data but gut feeling for a long time.

Charles?

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161952.46 in reply to 161952.45
Date: 10/25/2010 6:54:52 AM
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To add some buzz into your discussion:

Here is a player with atrocious SB and pitiful ID and he is still averaging 1.8 blocks in 5 games this season (made at least a block in any single game). And he is Shooting Guard! :) Yes, of course it is in V division, but still...

Weekly salary: $ 11 546

DMI: 86700
Age: 22
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: strong

Jump Shot: proficient Jump Range: tremendous
Outside Def.: respectable Handling: average
Driving: awful Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: awful Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: average

Experience: awful

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161952.47 in reply to 161952.46
Date: 10/25/2010 7:23:31 AM
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Strange! Very strange indeed!

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161952.48 in reply to 161952.46
Date: 10/26/2010 1:12:23 AM
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Wouldn't the quality of oppenent make a difference in the amount of shots blocked ie 15 shot blocking against a 4 inside shooter on average, would average more blocks per game than a 15 shot blocker against a 20 inside shooter. I would say when the player gets beat on Defense then the last defense would be his ability to block the shot.
Just my take.

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161952.49 in reply to 161952.48
Date: 10/26/2010 2:07:46 AM
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last 2 season ago, our ex U21 coach even prohibited us to train SB... lol....

From: barba
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161952.50 in reply to 161952.49
Date: 10/28/2010 3:25:15 PM
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My 20 yo trainee has OD (0), ID (10) and SB (9) and he´s averaging 2.5 blocks/game against D II competition

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161952.51 in reply to 161952.1
Date: 10/30/2010 6:10:12 PM
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Well when I think of somebody like Dwight Howard I believe his blocks are more and driving guards than on centers, maybe thats where its important since driving isnt as effective...just my opinion tho

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